I have heard that. But if he was raised by chickens, why does he like to eat chickens?

Can you tell me that, Buckethead?

Actually there was never any flush draw involved in the hand but thanks for trying to call me a lair again. Funny how the shill camp as resorted to screaming "Liar" when I have not once lied in this thread. And i keep playing because I still win more than I lose, and I really have a good deal of free time.

It's actually a combination of Buckethead and Bumblefoot. 2 amazing guitarists.
Also check out Guthrie Govan, Alex Hutchings, or Joe Satriani if you are into amazing guitar work. You really should Youtube Guthrie Govan. The guy is an animal.

He didn't call you a liar, he claimed you probably conveniently left it out. If you had posted suits (that showed no flush draw), and he said that the suits you posted were wrong, then that would effectively be calling you a liar. But you posted no suits, and he claimed that you probably conveniently left it out, which != lying.

So good job twisting his words. Or rather, lying about what he said?

Ohhhhhhhhhhh. You now have a good deal of respect from me.

Chinese Democracy is SO ****ING GOOD.

Are all shills this stupid?
I flopped top and bottom pair.
PM me if you are in search of lessons.

If losing as less than a 4 to 1 favorite on the flop in Omaha leads you to believe that it's rigged, then you definitely need to stop playing poker online.

Which of the following is an example of stupidity?

[ ] misreading one badly played omaha hand
[x] thinking one badly played omaha hand is conclusive evidence of rigging


However, I'm always up for free lessons. I've been wanting to play more omaha, just finished the Jeff Hwang book so I'm ready! Let me know how you want to go about it...

Very Important

I've been harpin on this thread for about a year now about something being wrong w/ online poker. I still believe that. Only now I don't blame the Poker sites as much anymore.

When we play online and something very improbable happens and we suspect fould play, common sense directs us right to the poker site for finger pointing. Who else would have the ability to hack into the RNG to know what cards are coming? Who or what else would have the capablities of "snooping" your hole cards? Who else could develop a poker program, that is statisticly programmed to be virtually impossible to beat, that can automaticly play your hands while your sleeping. Automaticly we think and accuse the poker rooms. That's wrong... I'll leave this vague for now, but I'd like the oppertunity to say one thing:

"**** you IndianaV8! You tarnished online poker just like Barry Bonds tarnished baseball. "

Ya my bad, I didn't see the gutshot for whatever reason, and thought he needed runners. It was late at night. Still, villain played it horribly and was up 4 buyins at the time. Maybe he thought it was Hi-low.

Well, botting will of course eventually be the downfall of online poker - or at least holdem. But we'll just move over to more complicated games - for example Omaha from what I understand is much more difficult to bot. But that's a different discussion for a different thread.

Although this is true, you skipped a step where common sense plays a role: Suspecting foul play.

I'm so happy that people can play horribly and can still win a couple of stacks. Otherwise poker would be like chess and nowhere NEAR as profitable.

These guys are set up like 2+2 and even have forums...You'd think like maybe 1 out of 500 players might be a bot or hacker of some sort, but it's more serious then that....

Is that the first time you actually got my screename right? Well done!

Thats prolly why I only win on the new 7 game...?

But it's not a different discussion. B/c theres a reason people think it's rigged....There's reason why people speculate. You guys really think it's paranoia? Online poker forums draws in large crowds of dilluted people? No. Something or some one during a session gave them reason to speculate....But again who and what is to blame? Online Poker is rigged. How about people are Rigging Online Poker...?

QPW, Your are associated w/ somebody that is a member of an Illegal programming website for online poker? I'm glad to be classed w/ people that are actually for causes that benefits others as opposed to our own selfish and immoral needs.
But how did you come to that rational conclusion anyways?

I have more inteligence and more strings then the ones that are pulling your fingers as you type QPW. You Puppet

Never praise shills...

LOL.

Erm, no, actually, if you had an skill in the activity that those of us with and IQ in double figures call 'reading' you would see that I called you 'Sooperfish', whereas your actual screenname is 'SooperFish24'.

Can you see the difference?

Not that I'm too bothered about getting the screennames of shills for RealDeal poker correct.

Que?

Eh?

Not only that, but I hear he's a Zionist too!

Somebody, please explain to me how it's possible for the principal investors or owners of an online poker site ( O.K., I'm talking about Full Tilt) are allowed to play on their own site. Are you telling me that when Howard Lederer, Phil Ivey or Chris Ferguson play, they aren't privy to information that others might not have? Or worse, the application isn't manupilated to give them a favorable advantage. Or how about when site Pro's play (all sites). Are they given some sort of advantage? Think before you say no. Sure we can stick our heads in the sand and hope that everything is run legitamatly. But how do we know? I guess my suspecions have recently risen by the number of bad beats that players, like me and others, get online. I, for one, will never again play online poker again as I really feel that its rigged. I'm really curious on what the masses feel. F.Y.I, this is not a thread because I've lost great sums of money online. I haven't.

Full tilt spends several million dollars each year on security, security is also done by a reputable company other than full tilt. Full tilt is probley the safest site along with Poker Stars. To me you sound a little bitter and like a loser. If the pros were unbeatable noone would play them, but they lose money all the time, I think Antonious is down 700k on the year. Most of there pros do good except GUS

If the system's purely random, it doesn't matter who's playing, and since FTP is pretty proud of their RNG, I guess they feel like it's ok for them to play. That's what they say, and no one's showed anything to discredit that. Every time one of the big pros play, there are tons of railers watching intently, and depending on how big they're playing, keeping track and posting hands. Plus sites like PTR and HSDB are constantly tracking pretty much every hand they play. It's not impossible to look up the site pros' winrates. If the site was rigged in their favor, it'd be found out pretty quick.

Funnily enough, most new pros talk about the "red pro curse" where they go on a huge downswing once they get signed. Already covered. Well, that at least puts you above the "it's rigged against me but I still play and whine about it" rigtards.

Lederer and Ferguson hardly ever play on Full Tilt, and Ivey isn't part of management. You're talking about a large company with a management structure and board of directors and thousands of employees, not an outfit run by a couple guys on the reservation (or 2 guys in Costa Rica like another company in the spotlight lately).