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Originally Posted by otatop
Then how do you know it happens?
Saying "they happen too often" means you know both how often they should happen and how often they do, which would let you prove your beliefs mathematically. It's really not that complicated, which is why it's so annoying. People show up, say something easily provable then tack on "but I can't prove it" and then drift into the ether.
I guess it's easier than downloading PT or HEM and looking things over and running them through pokerstove, plus it lets you continue to blame your bad luck on the sites rather than yourself, so in a way it makes sense.
Because they have higher stakes games.
It's difficult to "prove" things mathematically- not "easy" like you say. And your criticism is just as valid towards pokerstars, since they have never proven, by EMPIRICAL proof, that they are fairly dealing. Saying that some company they are paying audits some software that stars gives them, is by no means any type of proof. Please I invite you to take my pogo challenge. Just play there. It's fun (to see the atrocious play), free, and you will see how often A high is the best hand in short handed hold'em.
You might be surprised how often the conclusions of casual inspection matches up with the results of rigorous statistical analysis. The boards are ragged way more often on pogo. Top pair is a good hand on pogo. I don't have numbers to back it up, but I am confident that anyone who played on both sites would quickly see what I am talking about. Whether they would then steadfastly chalk it up to variance is another matter but I have played too much on stars not to see a sharp difference.
So you are saying stars does not offer higher stakes games? Why would that be? Maybe they don't want the smarter, higher stakes players to recognize patterns in their deal?