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Originally Posted by Jspirit88
Did he say "missclicked" after the hand was over? or immediately? Could be a superuser-It has happened and will likely happen again. Just like nuclear bombs, nobody wants to except the fact that eventually it will happen again. Its statistically impossible not to happen. WHAT CAN HAPPEN WILL HAPPEN.
The hand with 4 left went button raises to 3 BB, I was in the sb with 15 BB I shove, the BB did an immediate call (the type when one clicked a pre-action button) with his 18 BB stack, the button took a while (he had 40 BB and it was then bubble) and folded.
When the flop came the BB screamed in all caps that he misclicked. He flopped a pair and got his kicker paired on the river.
Do I think it was a 1 hour + tense bubble match all to set up that hand by a super user? No. Do I think it was a misclick? Yes. Was I happy about it after? Well duh, no.
It is actually a tad offensive to have to deal with people who imply it was all rigged when it was just a weird mistake that got lucky by a fairly solid player (everyone was playing tough, we even talked about it during a break). As I said before, sometimes #$%^ happens.
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Originally Posted by Jspirit88
Is money not a motive? As long as the owners get their profit what do they care if the employees are getting a cut to, as long as its under the radar? AP/UB proves fraud in online poker. Why are you in denial?
It is way to simplistic to say that any person or organization ( including publicly traded ones) would do literally anything to make a few more bucks. Seriously, why don't sites hire people to break into customers houses, kill them, and steal all their possessions? It would make more money after all.
Also, if the sites were all crooked, why would they do these really stupid crimes as suggested by riggedologists. They would do much simpler crimes that yielded more money then intricate 25th century AI made up programs that too many people would know about. Just stop paying cash outs ( as some small poker rooms and lots of online casinos have done).
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Originally Posted by Jussurreal
I said in my original post that I don't know if online poker is rigged or not, but it is stupid to believe that it can't possibly be rigged. That is what I said and that is what I meant. I don't have any proof that stars or tilt is rigged so I don't know 100% that they are. Some people are not republicans or democrats, they are in the middle. I'm in an area of grey with my beliefs, they are not black or white. For you to say it is impossible for a person to be undecided about something is well, dumb.
This is standard paranoia. You can fill in " I don't know if company xxx does yyy, but it is stupid to believe it cannot happen."
Here look, a couple conspiracy theories about McDonalds. Yes or no, would you say "it is stupid to believe it cannot happen"
The same can be found about any large company, government, union etc.
Welcome to paranoia.
https://www.dpchallenge.com/forum.ph...HREAD_ID=96863
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/bl...s/mcdonald.htm
Sometimes a hamburger is just a hamburger.
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Originally Posted by Jussurreal
LIKE I SAID, I DON'T KNOW IF THE SITES ARE RIGGED. However it has been caught on one major site and who knows if it is going on elsewhere.
The argument amongst the shills was "then why hasn't a company been caught yet". Then when absolute was caught it turned into all kinds of other excuses. Its possible. A major company was caught doing it.
That had nothing to do with rigged software. Why do riggedologists keep pointing to an actual crime that has nothing to do with their theories? Even That K guys bad beat blog whines had more to do with rigged software then the UB/Absolute chantes.
And your use of "shills" pretty much confirms your faith in riggedology. As I said before, stop being such a wimp about your beliefs, just embrace them already as others have done. Seriously, no one likes a half-assed riggedologist.
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Originally Posted by Jspirit88
Listen, I make money playing online. I don't play a lot but I win when I do. However its not nearly as much as it is offline.
Live games are much softer then online games. That may actually be a factor... Lot's of marginal players can make some live. Congrats.
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Originally Posted by Jussurreal
Also when I said I lost 11 consecutive all in hands that I had at least a 70% statistical advantage in, THAT IS WHAT HAPPENED. It wasn't 10 hands or 12, it was 11 straight hands. Do that math. Remember to add in some 80%'s and 90%'s in there too because I had that advantage in many of them.
I would ask for the database of hands or hand numbers as proof, but we all know that never is presented for varying excuses. However, pretending what you say actually did happen, what specifically do you think was the reason for it? Were they choosing you to screw? If so, why? While no one ever expects you to actually show the hands in question, at least give your reasoning as to why you think they happened, since you are implying that sinister, dark, black ops like forces were at work to screw you for $5 or something.
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Originally Posted by Jussurreal
Don't try to play me out for a moron.
You are a fairly standard paranoid riggedologist. I have no idea how smart you actually are, as many riggedologists live fairly normal lives outside of their paranoid hot zone issues.
However, as I alluded to above, would you have similar "what if/it could happen" beliefs about other companies like McDonalds? How about governments? If not, why not? Look over those McDonalds conspiracy theory links and google more for yourself (just enter a large company name with conspiracy theories). Do you think all of them are true? Do you think some of them are a bit insane? Well, hate to be the bearer of bad news, but all demonstrate pretty much the same thinking and reasoning process.
All the best.