Curious as to how PT won't work on your computer. But in any event, just copy you database to a USB drive and bring it to your new computer. They only cost a few bucks.

It's posts like these that make me think you might be levelling with all your posts. That, or you really don't want to show your graph.

I started with $50 on PS like most people and now have a couple thousand in profit. Why would I still think its rigged?

I should be happy no?

Why do you still play at stars if its so rigged? Move to tilt. duh.

Holy ****, something that's supposed to happen 30% of the time happened, obviously rigged.
If you request all your thousands of HH's from PS and post a screenshot from PT3 or HEM showing AA, KK, and QQ winning less than 70% of the time, I'll ship you $100 on Stars.

That doesn't mean you can show me that you've lost money with them, or that you can show me a screenshot with 70 hands where your kings got beat by A3o, I'm talking a 20,000 hand+ database where you got each hand about 100 times, and managed to lose 30 of those 100 times.

I think K13 has said he plays mainly SNGs. I wonder what the makeup is of rigtards: cash vs. tournaments. I'm betting more rigtards play tournaments, SNG's etc. where the immediate consequence of a bad beat can mean elimination. Where in cash you just move on to the next hand knowing that if the other player stays around long enough you should have a chance to return the favour.

typical shill, always making up some crazy, impossible to prove parameters for your macho-man bet.

Snap into a Slim Jim. Ohhhhhhhh yeeeeaaaaaaaaah.

I am not even sure you think it is rigged. You will never be happy, you enjoy the art of whining whenever you lose way too much to ever be satisfied when you do actually win.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martyr_complex

You manage to have a mental condition that manifests in some really annoying behavior in this forum, making you a very effective yet unintentional troll. Others would love to be as annoying as you, and try to be, yet fail. Ironic.

Same here. And I have played live poker a lot before taking online more seriously. And I can tell that in live play AA loses a lot of PF all ins, but never so frequent as in online poker. AA losing to PP happens, but, if you play it 10 times it loses around 2 times. That gives you the sensation of safety, when that happens you feel that is infrequent, in online poker when I go all in with AA I have fear! It happens 3 in 4 times in a sequence, very often.

That explanation of :"you play more hands online" does not work. If somthing is to happen 20% of time you will have the intuitively sense of rarity. Thats what you dont have in online play. And its not just about me, you see it happens all the time when others players are in the hand and you are out.


About the data analisys:


The only trustfull data analisys that could be made is with a huge sample of the poker room hands, WITH ALL HOLES CARDS INCLUDED AT ALL STAGES OF THE GAME. I doubt they would give these information to anyone, because of privacy problems. So we can only make partial and uncomplete data analisys that are far away from being conclusive.

expert analisys imo

There should be a rigtard phrase or word(s) of the day. This one should win for today imo. It's rigtastic!

I nominate that word.

that or "analisys"

I like "analisys". I think the word should have to come from a rigtard. We don't want them thinking the word of the day is rigged.

plus it sounds like of like this:



and yeah, if we said the word of the day was "rigtastic" then some dummy would use it as proof that the majority of the non-lizard humans believe the RNG is rigged for action flops and rivers to keep the fish playing longer, the short-stacks to win more often while eliminating them faster so they play another tournament sooner. or something like that.

No way, you're telling me short term variance happens? This is a stunning revelation. 20% isn't that rare. Let's say you see 2,000 hands a day, and you only actually play 20% of them. So that's 400 hands. For simplicity's sake, we'll say that any hand you play actually plays out to showdown, and you're an 80% favorite preflop every time. You're still supposed to lose about 80 hands. That's almost 3 hours worth of live hands, and you lost them all, good God! Ignore the fact that you won 320 hands, because obviously you should win all your 80/20s.

Basically it's just confirmation bias. I don't remember what the hell my opponent had the last 10 times I won with AA, but I distinctly remember every single action in the hand where my KK was beaten by 52s. Cigital was given every cash hand played on Stars above 25NL for December 2008, with all hole cards. They just checked whether the winning hand was determined by luck or skill, but I'm sure if a reputable company (i.e. not just some dude from 2+2 who might use the hands as a form of datamining) came to them offering to do an audit of their RNG, Stars would be more than happy to oblige.

But of course that company would just be a shell company to cover up the rigging, so it could never be trusted, and the cycle would go on.

Oh dear it looks like you have had TOO MANY BEERS. Hahahahaha! Do you see what i did there? I used your name to insult you and used CAPITALS to make it even more funny. It's like i'm telling you your own bad joke. Thanks for the idea. I hope it "might help me to sound above a 2 year old".

On a less moronic note, the paragraphs quoted below clearly imply that you believe any / all poker sites may be cheating their customers and that any / all governments are turning a blind eye as much as they possibly can.

The reason you "have never accused anyone of anything" directly is because you don't have any evidence. Instead you are discrediting the integrity of thousands of Government and Online Casino Employees whilst hiding behind a veil of "I don't know but..." type nonsense.

If you enjoy or profit from online poker please stop treating it with such utter disdain because you are only further tarnishing the reputation of an industry which already has to battle against criticism which is often unfair. If someone like you who plays poker and claims not to believe its rigged can freely make sweeping acusations, is it any wonder many "outsiders" feel the way they do about the industry.

You're quite wrong here. We don't need to know any hole cards at all to analyse the board and determine if the community cards follow their expected distributions. Having all hole cards would allow a determination of whether all 1326 possible hands are dealt evenly, but that isn't of much use by itself anyway, as the site could switch hands between targeted players and not change the hole card distributions. Knowing all the seen community cards and all the hole cards that made it to showdown, is sufficient to do a very comprehensive (and conclusive) analysis of whether the deal is fair.

Every individual player can check whether their own hole cards are dealt according to expectation, and many many players have done this and found they get the right number of AA, of KK, etc etc. It isn't of much interest to repeat that in a large pooled sample. It's the board cards and showdowns that matter.

OK, I'm convinced.

The sites are rigging it against AA, KK and QQ.

So simply stop playing those hands as you are obviously not going to win with them and modify your play of hands that the sites rig to beat AA, etc.

Go away and try it and after you've given it a go for, oh, say, 20,000 hands, come back and tell us how your stats have improved.

Imagaine what a hero you'll be when we can all change our playing patterns to match yours and improve our own returns.

You will achieve your proper status as a poker god!

never heard that at a live card room. that's all the proof I need!

not if you have your entire bankroll on the table you can't.

Great laughs up here.

Great laughs up hre. Keep the fun comments going on, you should be humourist.