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05-13-2009 , 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by tk1133
Why and how is it a fantasy that is crazy? How is it impossible?
The rigtard ramblings are the very definition of fantasy:

"An imagined event or sequence of mental images, such as a daydream, usually fulfilling a wish or psychological need"

Why can't you see that until you provide any kind of supporting evidence, this is exactly what your "theories" are? Crazy fantasies can come true and I never said rigging was impossible (I don't think anyone else has either). I think we all just hate people spouting their spurious ramblings as fact, with an incomprehensible sense of self importance and smugness.

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Originally Posted by tk1133
Your claiming something that has been done already is impossible. and that something that is probable and possible is held in the same regaurd as big foot, alien, NWO, conspiracy theorists?
A site rigging the deal has already been done? Why are we arguing if you have proof of that?

Your rigtard opinions are a "theory" of a "conspiracy" which is why some people have compared them to other "conspiracy theories", although I wasnt one of them. What is your problem with this comparison?
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05-13-2009 , 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by tk1133
Where and when did I do this in the last....4 months? Please take your own medicine and provide me with how you came to that conclusion. I'll say it again: It needs regulated...Period. What happens when or if a site cheats a player? Nothing....That is why %$@# needs to change...
I admit I've skipped most of the posts in here. If you've stopped posting accusations without evidence, then I commend you for doing that and encourage everyone to do the same.

I think most people are in agreement that the industry needs more regulation. However, I completely disagree that it will stop the claims that it's all a scam.
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05-13-2009 , 04:48 PM
I just happened to come across this in another thread. TK1133 quit playing on Poker Stars and Full Tilt because of owing them money for bad echecks. To both sites. Then after inadvertently admitting this, TK1133 deleted the post, but it was too late and others had quoted it. He then ran away and didn't make another post in the thread, after others rightly jumped all over this.

GTFO, you have no credibility to say anything in this thread or any other.
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05-13-2009 , 04:49 PM
That's absolutely terrible though.
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05-13-2009 , 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Bingo_Boy
The rigtard ramblings are the very definition of fantasy:

"An imagined event or sequence of mental images, such as a daydream, usually fulfilling a wish or psychological need"

Why can't you see that until you provide any kind of supporting evidence, this is exactly what your "theories" are? Crazy fantasies can come true and I never said rigging was impossible (I don't think anyone else has either). I think we all just hate people spouting their spurious ramblings as fact, with an incomprehensible sense of self importance and smugness.



A site rigging the deal has already been done? Why are we arguing if you have proof of that?

Your rigtard opinions are a "theory" of a "conspiracy" which is why some people have compared them to other "conspiracy theories", although I wasnt one of them. What is your problem with this comparison?
That's pretty funny your still defending your comparison. Well I don't see any bills or legislation passing through Congress that include: Sending out a massive search team to seek and destroy any and all "BigFoot's," B.c they threaten our National Security and our Democracy. Besides the revenue we make from selling their DNA and body parts to science would be astronomical...I'm ready to sign up and join the search for bigfoot! Who's with us?!
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05-13-2009 , 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by tk1133
That's pretty funny your still defending your comparison. Well I don't see any bills or legislation passing through Congress that include: Sending out a massive search team to seek and destroy any and all "BigFoot's," B.c they threaten our National Security and our Democracy. Besides the revenue we make from selling their DNA and body parts to science would be astronomical...I'm ready to sign up and join the search for bigfoot! Who's with us?!

The legislation regarding poker had nothing to do with beliefs that the deals were specifically rigged.

Plenty of people have asked for legislation to look into all sorts of conspiracies. JFK, 9/11 , Bigfoot, you name it and someone has said we need to properly find "the truth" via a government investigation/legislation (unless they thought the govt was "in on it").

You really mangle points and comparisons though, so at this point I will wish you well with whatever beliefs you maintain.

Also, try to become a smarter criminal in future when doing fraud.

All the best.
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05-13-2009 , 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by spadebidder
I just happened to come across this in another thread. TK1133 quit playing on Poker Stars and Full Tilt because of owing them money for bad echecks. To both sites. Then after inadvertently admitting this, TK1133 deleted the post, but it was too late and others had quoted it.

GTFO, you have no credibility to say anything in this thread or any other.
I didn't delete that post...I admitted that it's possible to owe a site money with out any shady or malicious activity b/c the OP was being denounced for owing a site money. Admitted, didn't slip out. But let's reflect. When Echecks became available to Stars, I quit using epassporte(before the banned it) and jumped on the new deposit option. Well I made about, I dunno, 8 or 9 deposits in a 21 day period. All being atleast 3 days apart. Stars clearly stated that echecks will clear your bank account within ten business days. Literally 21 business days later all the deposits that I had made for that month cleared my bank account at one time on the same date. I had about
2k clear my bank account in one day and was withdrawing my profit from the month to my eppassporte account. Which is why things didn't balence out. I dont' wish PSTARS any bad press, so I never bothered to start any trouble. Was simply very unhappy with their support and their conduct. I had over a grand in overdraft fees....and pissed off my credit union beyond repair...In the mean time 150 dollars got messed up from fulltilt poker echecks. Whom I am in good standing w/ now. I miss pokerstars, and any one of their reps can verify this....I just had one bad incident when Stars was first getting familiar with Echecks....Thanks for wasting our time with that irrelevent information tho....
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05-13-2009 , 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Monteroy
The legislation regarding poker had nothing to do with beliefs that the deals were specifically rigged.

Plenty of people have asked for legislation to look into all sorts of conspiracies. JFK, 9/11 , Bigfoot, you name it and someone has said we need to properly find "the truth" via a government investigation/legislation (unless they thought the govt was "in on it").

You really mangle points and comparisons though, so at this point I will wish you well with whatever beliefs you maintain.

Also, try to become a smarter criminal in future when doing fraud.

All the best.
Again, re read the links I pasted...I wouldn't have to draw you mental pictures all the time....What criminal fraud did I take place in?
Show me one legislation that made it to the floor that your saying was proposed in the past. The Warren Commission on the JFK is about all you can come up with. Quite frankly, if the somebody other then Lee Oswald killed Kennedy, then I personally believe there was a good reason for it. Such a reason that it doesn't need to be revealed to the public. If he was, then he already got justice...Doesn't matter... Let's compare apples to apples, and oranges to oranges....

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05-13-2009 , 05:06 PM
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Again, re read the links I pasted...I wouldn't have to draw you mental pictures all the time....What criminal fraud did I take place in?
Bad checks to poker sites, and you've admitted to an amount that makes it a felony in about every state. Blaming it on a delay for the checks to clear is irrelevant. Then you change to playing on UB and bash the sites that kicked you out, saying they're rigged. You're a real piece of work.
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05-13-2009 , 05:07 PM
Spade, why are you a liar? You literally just lied and took my post out of context? Your seriously that low of a parasite? You said I inadvertantly admitted? Then I tried to delete the post? I owed them money for "bad checks?" No I owed one site money for not knowing what the hell they were doing. Please copy and paste the link where we can all see my deliberate admission and the context of how it was taken. I play on Fulltilt as we speak and even get rakeback....Odd...That proves my point on your character tho...Nice try tho...guess that's why they pay you the big bucks....
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05-13-2009 , 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by tk1133
Spade, why are you a liar?
Here's the quoted post, linked to a deleted post.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28.../#post10563906

And when attacked, you didn't make another post in the thread. Where did I lie?
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05-13-2009 , 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by spadebidder
Bad checks to poker sites, and you've admitted to an amount that makes it a felony in about every state. Blaming it on a delay for the checks to clear is irrelevant. Then you change to playing on UB and bash the sites that kicked you out, saying they're rigged. You're a real piece of work.
Guess what, they didn't kick me out...or boot me. Guess what, it wasn't a felony b/c I had 1500 in my account at the time therefore it took me to negative 382 or something. Guess what, PokerStars emails me once a week to "restore my account." PokerStars admitted to error in the eheck systems at the time, but I still needed to restore the funds.
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05-13-2009 , 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by tk1133
Again, re read the links I pasted...I wouldn't have to draw you mental pictures all the time....What criminal fraud did I take place in?
Honestly, I have not read most of your spew posts, but based on your attitude and the way you handle situations it is a fairly easy assumption to make that you are a petty criminal/angle shooter.

Spade decided to provide some proof of that which again is how proving things work.

You can ramble all you like otherwise and try to explain yourself, but realistically no one truly cares. Your choice.


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Originally Posted by tk1133
Show me one legislation that made it to the floor that your saying was proposed in the past. The Warren Commission on the JFK is about all you can come up with. Quite frankly, if the somebody other then Lee Oswald killed Kennedy, then I personally believe there was a good reason for it. Such a reason that it doesn't need to be revealed to the public. If he was, then he already got justice...Doesn't matter... Let's compare apples to apples, and oranges to oranges....

Shrug. Show me any poker legislation based on the belief that the deals are rigged. You are comparing apples to oranges by bringing up the poker legislation as if it means something special when it had nothing to do with the "rigged belief" topic at all.

You think like a standard lower educated conspiracy nut, with your target being online poker. Seriously, have fun with it, but duplicates of you can be found all over the world, just substitute online poker with 9/11, aliens, lizard people, bigfoot etc. Look at how they do they arguments, choose some of the lower educated ones and see for yourself. It's basically you.

Again, I stress you are entitled to believe whatever you like if those beliefs of the "hidden truth" bring you comfort.

The truth is out there.
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05-13-2009 , 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by spadebidder
Here's the quoted post, linked to a deleted post.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28.../#post10563906

And when attacked, you didn't make another post in the thread. Where did I lie?
How did I inadvertantly admit to owing a site money. That means I slipped and came out about owing a poker site money for bad checks?! I really didn't see the thread was still going. Or I would of addressed it. Your pretty low tho for manipulating a situation.
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05-13-2009 , 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by tk1133
http://www.whitehouse.gov/assets/doc...Book_Final.pdf

Click that...then read page 22....I didn't post is but I think what you'll find backs up my point....
LOL, I've just read this. Please tell me what your point is and how this backs it up.

There are people like you who think they could be cheated playing online poker and would like protection, who want to be able to play legally and easily and want the Government to profit from taxation? If this is your point this makes perfect sense and nobody would argue with you but why post it and what does it have to do with rigged deals?

Last edited by Bingo_Boy; 05-13-2009 at 05:24 PM. Reason: sorry, ignore this, i'm detracting from your character assassination
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05-13-2009 , 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Bingo_Boy
LOL, I've just read this. Please tell me what your point is and how this backs it up.

There are people like you who think they could be cheated playing online poker and would like protection, who want to be able to play legally and easily and want the Government to profit from taxation? If this is your point this makes perfect sense and nobody would argue with you but why post it and what does it have to do with rigged deals?
I already answered that before you could ask...look at where I wrote underneath it...Thanks for trying to jump on the band wagon. This the only place you can find friends?
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05-13-2009 , 05:22 PM
What is he lying about/manipulating?
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05-13-2009 , 05:28 PM
This thread is getting good again. I take back my post saying I was staying out of it.

I remember the thread spadebidder referenced earlier, but I forgot it was tk that was the scammer. Classic.
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05-13-2009 , 05:30 PM
He said I inadvertantly admitted to owing a site money....Therefore I'm not credible and I'm a criminal? That means I accidently admitted to owing a site money? Or let it slip out that I owe a site money...I started that post by saying I will "admit".....
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05-13-2009 , 05:31 PM
Why did you delete it then?
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05-13-2009 , 05:33 PM
Your credibility goes WAY down when you edit your post to take out the part about you owing money to Stars and FTP. As in afterward you thought it was a mistake, or accidental.

Or inadvertent.
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05-13-2009 , 05:38 PM
I didn't delete it. And if I did it was an accident.
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05-13-2009 , 05:39 PM
I paid FTP back instantly... Get over it.
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05-13-2009 , 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by tk1133
How did I inadvertantly admit to owing a site money. That means I slipped and came out about owing a poker site money for bad checks?! I really didn't see the thread was still going. Or I would of addressed it. Your pretty low tho for manipulating a situation.
tk1133, when are you going to tell us how much RealDeal are paying you to shill this site for them?

And when are you going to stop lying and admit that you are a thief who defrauds poker sites?
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05-13-2009 , 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by tk1133
I didn't delete it. And if I did it was an accident.
Here you demonstrate with extraordinary clarity that you have no idea what the truth means, let alone any regard for it.

Just admit you are a thief.

And tell us how much RealDeal are paying you to shill for them.
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