Of course, I understand everything, but these guys have $ 800 per hour, provided that they essentially play without any select, they just sit down at 6-9 free tables and smash absolutely everyone there! it's obvious that it's not the usual reg playing there, and from what I've seen, it's not chip dumping either. only one remains. I think it's time to do something about it, they win too much and they do it too brazenly! Please pay special attention to the time of the game, they win everything in a couple of sessions, and then change the account.

jesus christ
imposible win rate
samthing more complicate dhen bot it self

super duper machine

Posting a load of screennames wont do much

​Curacao Gaming License is the main logo that hangs in all poker products of the ggnetwork network down in the lobby. I wrote to them a week ago to find out about granting a license, but they don’t even know about them))

arent you just isolating players who ran good short term? these winrates are just not sustainable

Guys, I found more bots who won way more even:





(lol @ picking a hand full of highest winrates winning 20 stacks and then slapping a variance calculator below saying "but if they had 0bb winrate, it would be 99% unlikely")

Of course there are going to be bots on Poker platforms.

Look at the wider picture - 15 year old kids are able to hack companies like Uber, Nvidia, Banks, Telecomms giants.

Surely you understand that it’s really easy to build a bot to exploit people?

It’s the risk we take doing anything online.

Where there is money - there are fraudsters. Period.

in all your examples, the distances are much shorter (every thousand hands is of great value for such a win rate!). at the same time, people in lineups with fish won this money, playing one or two tables for a long time.

in my examples a "monster" enters on nl500, sits at all free tables (they can have up to 9 tables on average per session), for 10 sessions in lineups without a select wins 50 stacks and disappears! "800 dollars per hour is too little for me, goodbye!" (hahaha, of course) and a new account appears at the same time with the same winrate and similar stats! what a coincidence!

take a closer look at the dates when they played, is there at least one player who, after such "luck", refuses to continue playing? (no select, no problems with game volumes, no dispersion, sit and print money) and they strangely go alone after another!

This looks concerning. The winrates point more to possible super user(s) than bots.

if it was several superusers, then it's strange that they all play one after another. if it was one superuser, then his postflop stats change too quickly (I think it's fast for a person, but not for a machine)

Hi all!

"investigation" update: it turned out to be money laundering. at the table with these players almost always sat a weakly minus reg, who gave the heroes from the screenshots stack after stack (this fake reg also appeared for only a month). Against other regs they played terribly, I think they are easy to beat if you understand a little about the peculiarities of their strategy.

I also saw this kind of impossible win rate in other stakes, even NL50 (200bb/100 for like 7000 hands). How do you sure it's money laundering, do people luandering in micro stakes ? Or it just there's something wrong with smarthand?

in my case, I just saw the game of these people, in yours it is enough to use common sense logic: such a person earns more than if all the people at the table folded, this, in my opinion, is impossible, not even every fish is capable of such a loss rate, but he beats everyone at the table with such a win rate

hmmmm is this really resolved after the moneytaker69 super user incident has came to light?

can we see hand histories of these players?

I'd like to see the HHs that prove that. Until then I don't believe GG a single word.

Does the money laundering idea hold up? The graphs all look incredibly smooth. Wouldn't you expect a lot bigger bumps in case of chip dumping?

yes, for example, all or almost all diabloressure chips were poured over by WorstNorocci. Moreover, these guys approached the matter responsibly and if you look at each hand separately, then you can’t really complain. As for your suspicions, the last hand refutes the fact that diabloressure knew the equity of his hand.

Haha, it's almost ironic that money laundering seems like a better option than cheating, isn't it?

Money laundering is a criminal activity that's illegal in virtually every country I'm aware of, whereas cheating, except for specific cases as Nevada regulations, isn't typically considered a crime. Most countries cheating in online poker is not a criminal act unless you hack the company itself. So botting and RTA and colluding is almost nowhere a crime which is punishable.

Perhaps some operators, like those from China, can run poker rooms that seem to push boundaries, much like they manage to deal with selling precursor chemicals to the production of methamphetamine and fentanyl, or being the world's largest exporters of performance-enhancing drugs without legal consequences. However, it's essential to remember that such operations carry significant risks and are ticking bombs and the closure is maybe one DOJ deal away with China....