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04-17-2010 , 09:47 PM
I know we try to point out when someone posts about bank transfers in the bank wire thread but i think KidKash was just trying to help those who bank with *ase.

Does anyone know if the source of a wire is easier/more likely for a bank to trace than an ACH (bank transfer)? or is the potential "risk" of detection the same?
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04-18-2010 , 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Fulzgold
I know we try to point out when someone posts about bank transfers in the bank wire thread but i think KidKash was just trying to help those who bank with *ase.

Does anyone know if the source of a wire is easier/more likely for a bank to trace than an ACH (bank transfer)? or is the potential "risk" of detection the same?
I have contributed to both threads for a long time apparently Mark is just trigger happy..

AFAIK, only way to "detect" is to have a processor which has already been flagged.. either a processor was flagged - or there really is no ch@se issue..

Its likely too that a processor could screw up a days worth of batches and then somehow it gets reported as bank rejection..

I'd like to hear back from these guys who had the issue and find out what they were told from their bank - I would be at my banks front door soon as they reject a deposit of mine..
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04-18-2010 , 07:18 PM
KidKash, I'm sure he meant no offense. This thread seriously gets way to many people posting about the wrong method, and I know I alone have linked the correct thread many times. He probably was just responding on auto pilot. Anyway about Ch@se:

If you read a page or two back I posted a link to a thread where a guy helped a ch@se rep "track" a few wires he had been getting from FTP. She was obv interested in the source of these and probably flagged it. So either the bank it's self is now blocking from that processor, or FTP has chosen to not send to Ch@se anymore because of that (they read these forums).

Rightfully so, this would not affect ACH transactions (bank transfer) because those have different processors.

I guess I'll go ahead and say this, because it needs to be said obviously, but guys please reconsider getting 3 BT's all in a row. The most common use for an ACH deposit into someone's account is a direct deposit from their employee, or benefit payment from social security, etc.. It def raises flags if you are receiving 3 bank transfers all for 950 on the dot, within 3 or 4 days.

EDIT: here's the thread http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28...ctions-752159/ Wires going to Ch@se ceased shortly after that thread.

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04-18-2010 , 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by KidKash
I have contributed to both threads for a long time apparently Mark is just trigger happy..

AFAIK, only way to "detect" is to have a processor which has already been flagged.. either a processor was flagged - or there really is no ch@se issue..

Its likely too that a processor could screw up a days worth of batches and then somehow it gets reported as bank rejection..

I'd like to hear back from these guys who had the issue and find out what they were told from their bank - I would be at my banks front door soon as they reject a deposit of mine..
I think i remember reading, possibly somewhere in one the bank acct closure threads in legislation that one of these two transactions is "coded" as to what type of transaction it is. That's what I was getting at. hoping someone with industry knowledge would enlighten us.

For example, you receive a bank wire coded "gaming" or "gambling" then the bank calls you b/c they're paranoid about UIGEA. This has happened to some players who have posted. I think it might be regular wires that are easily detected by paranoid banks but not totally sure.
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04-19-2010 , 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by KidKash
I have contributed to both threads for a long time apparently Mark is just trigger happy..
Sorry if I was a jerk. I go on 2p2 tilt sometimes. PMS I guess...

Mark
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04-20-2010 , 09:35 AM
I requested a $5000.00 premium bank wire over the weekend and had it sent to a savings account. Later I noticed it says wires can only be sent to checking accounts. The withdrawal was approved and I sent an email to FT explaining my situation. The email they sent back did not help me at all.

So, has anyone ever had a wire go through to a savings account from FT? Also, if they cannot send them to a savings account what kind of time frame will it take for the money to be returned to my account?
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04-23-2010 , 01:29 AM
I did my first 20K bankwire and when I checked today I had a wire come in for $12,069 and some change. Is this normal? Does FTP usually send those in multiple wires?

Another poster told me that I may have been hit with 8k worth of transaction fees. Had anyone heard of this? Kind of worried..
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04-23-2010 , 03:11 AM
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Originally Posted by headache3
I did my first 20K bankwire and when I checked today I had a wire come in for $12,069 and some change. Is this normal? Does FTP usually send those in multiple wires?

Another poster told me that I may have been hit with 8k worth of transaction fees. Had anyone heard of this? Kind of worried..
This is obviously a mistake. Email the cashier and include a copy/screen shot of your bank statement if you want to speed things up.

You may also want to private message FTPSean with your screen name and the details.
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04-23-2010 , 03:57 AM
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Originally Posted by THEBIGYELLOWJOINT
I requested a $5000.00 premium bank wire over the weekend and had it sent to a savings account. Later I noticed it says wires can only be sent to checking accounts. The withdrawal was approved and I sent an email to FT explaining my situation. The email they sent back did not help me at all.

So, has anyone ever had a wire go through to a savings account from FT? Also, if they cannot send them to a savings account what kind of time frame will it take for the money to be returned to my account?
Hi,

Any chance you can quote me the transaction IX or your player ID so I can investigate the issue further?

Sean
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04-23-2010 , 10:51 PM
FTPSean...Can you check into my withdrawl. (screenname Listerx) I made a 7950 bank wire withdrawl around a month ago and still have not received it. I have sent a couple emails asking where it is and they have said:

"As we are not a Financial Institute, we rely on third party processors to send your funds out to you, as such we are waiting for a reply from the processor working on your issue."

It has been around 6 days since this email and I haven't heard anything. This has been a very long time and it is a lot of money, would like to know how long this is going to take.
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04-23-2010 , 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by FTPSean
Hi,

Any chance you can quote me the transaction IX or your player ID so I can investigate the issue further?

Sean
Thanks for the reply Sean. My withdrawal hit my savings account on Wednesday or Thursday and only $49.50 was taken out in fees. I am very pleased and hope you guys keep up the quick withdrawals. Thanks.
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04-24-2010 , 12:14 AM
Is there anything wrong with transferring to an account that doesn't have your name on it ( I noticed you could change the name).

Such as your wife or close relative or something like that. Just wondering. Thank you in advance.
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04-24-2010 , 12:40 AM
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Originally Posted by LT22
most credit unions aren't sketchy. make sure they are insured by the gov't. credit unions usually are the best banks in town
HINT HINT. This. Nuff said.
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04-24-2010 , 06:11 PM
What is the best method of cashing out large sums of money (i.e. 10k or more) while taking the smallest hit to rakeback?
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04-26-2010 , 01:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Fat Nicky
jesus christ....wtf was that guy thinking?
quoted to add ****ing between those first two words.... my god. these rich kids/guys that just don't care what happens to anyone else are real tools.

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04-28-2010 , 12:42 PM
Req - 4/22
Approved - 4/23
Received - 4/27
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04-28-2010 , 03:14 PM
Req: 2010-04-27
Apr: 2010-04-27
Rec: will update..

rb hit: -74.88 to mgr ($20.21)
fee: will update
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04-28-2010 , 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by suchsickaments
FTPSean...Can you check into my withdrawl. (screenname Listerx) I made a 7950 bank wire withdrawl around a month ago and still have not received it. I have sent a couple emails asking where it is and they have said:

"As we are not a Financial Institute, we rely on third party processors to send your funds out to you, as such we are waiting for a reply from the processor working on your issue."

It has been around 6 days since this email and I haven't heard anything. This has been a very long time and it is a lot of money, would like to know how long this is going to take.
Still can't get a solid response from Fulltilt, they are looking into it still. My withdrawl was from March and I guess they lost it some where. Really sucks to have $8k tied up for a whole month, hopefully they will give me some compensation.
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04-28-2010 , 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by suchsickaments
Still can't get a solid response from Fulltilt, they are looking into it still. My withdrawl was from March and I guess they lost it some where. Really sucks to have $8k tied up for a whole month, hopefully they will give me some compensation.
If you play live ....don't you receive the same reply from the cashier?
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04-28-2010 , 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by russell1963
If you play live ....don't you receive the same reply from the cashier?
Hey man..that's some serious cash...just a thought....time to play live until we get some US Regs....should be within a year...
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04-28-2010 , 07:21 PM
Sigh. I should have read this thread before initiating a wire transfer to JPMCh@ce. Strangely enough, it was approved. Wasn't FTP rejecting these?
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04-28-2010 , 07:47 PM
I just got declined for premium bank wire.. Weird, i just did one 2 weeks ago.. And probably 20-25 in the past, never declined.. Anyone else?
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04-29-2010 , 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by dbdbdb
Req: 2010-04-27
Apr: 2010-04-27
Rec: will update..

rb hit: -74.88 to mgr ($20.21)
fee: will update
Req: 2010-04-27
Apr: 2010-04-27
Rec: 4/29

rb hit: -74.88 to mgr ($20.21)
fee: 48.54
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04-29-2010 , 11:40 AM
Req 4-26
Rec 4-29

Wire HIT $56
Wire Transfer Fee $15
Amount was over $2500 FWIW
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05-01-2010 , 05:53 PM
hope you guys don't have to experience what I am going through. Keep getting emails from full tilt telling me they havent heard back from their processor yet.

5 weeks strong and no sign of my money showing up. Not even a hint as to how long it could take
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