Lol, so you figured BoA would decline the transaction and did it anyway.

noobs

This will probably be my last post unless someone has something more asinine to say. Answer me this smart guys. Where are they going to sue me? and Why are they going to waste their time over $300? Furthermore, Why would the United States allow FTP access to our court system to collect $300 from a US citizen who alerted the bank of a possible withdrawal by an online gaming company?

I will be back in a few hours and I would like to hear some intelligent responses. Not the moron who reads the 1st post and jumps directly to here to post something already clarified and rebutted or to state something completely useless to facilitate this conversation.

So I guess you also think it is fraud if a bank puts a hold on a cheque for a few days to make sure that the funds are actually there.

Your argument is absolutely, positively, irrefutably, 100% percent ridiculous.

Seriously, FTP is acting badly. And you shouldnt fault OP for taking actions.

He might overreacting in your oppinion, however this what happens when companies disrespect the costumers and their money. I'm on your side OP. FTP is acting unprofessional and you take the actions your have to your disposal.

I wouldn't be suprised that most of the whiners here are affiliates. As affilites they know that situations like these ends with them paying for the so called "frauds" by getting less rake. And I belive affiliates will pay for this fraud regardless if there are equal amount of money on the locked account that will be confiscated.

Their oppinions are tainted by thier own interests. And they can't do much about it but whine about fraudsters.

god this guy is dumb (lol not your last post)

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Sounds like maybe you didn't send them enough emails in the last 24 hours.

The OP used an E-Check to deposit, has multiple accounts on FTP so they put a freeze on the account so they can look into it. OP doesn't get a response for 2 days and decides to commit fraud.

Explain again why you agree with him. Do you really expect E-Checks to be accepted immediately no matter what even if a player has multiple accounts? Does FTP have slow support? Seems like it, but that does not mean you should commit fraud.

There you go again. Clearly you are not the King of Reading Comprehension, because I told you my other account was closed like 2-3 years ago after my request. God Dammit you are not adding anything to this situation.

You have yet to explain WHY your other account was closed.

maybe get more belligerent at everything. that might help also.

Closed account doesn't mean that you can create a new one. FTP has made that very clear on several occasions. If you create a second account (regardless of the status of your first) it will be frozen. They will get back to you just chill.

The issue is when they do get back to you and everything is cool you won't post here to update. You'll just go back into your douchey little world and disappear until you can come bitch at the community again.

Let me ask you... since you've been a member since Jul 2008 what have you contributed to 2p2? Why should we help you?

I wouldnt consider it fraud if he has the same amount of money left on his account.
If he has deposited without spending founds on the account, then imo he is mearly preventing possible fraud against himself.

hahaha you posted again

Well luckily you don't decide what is and is not fraud. Chargebacks on purchases you actually made is fraud. I didn't make the law.

Fraud may only be the right word to use if he never intended to pay the echeck charge. While I don't discount that as a possibility- I also don't think that part of the discussion is very productive. It doesn't appear he got to play with the money they would have advanced.

The problem is at some point the series of steps taken by OP is enough that Full Tilt will simply say "okay too much risk/hassle based on things he did here. account locked permanently."

I have no idea why someone would try to make something like this sooooo personal when there are dozens of threads that would show that yeah it may take a little time but generally things get sorted out straight.

OP - you should PM teabag and get his take on the situation.

Commit fraud to prevent FTP from committing "possible" fraud....So it's not fraud...

You are right. However chargebacks are possible for a reason right?

OP payed and was denied his product. He tries to contact and sort it out, however they fail meet his request for dealing with the matter. I would definitely say that he didnt get what he payed for and therefore a chargeback doesnt seem unreasonable to me.

Just saying my oppinion.

Cuz that requires searching ldo

He has given them 24 hours!!! LOL

Fair enough, but the thing is, you can't expect FTP to instantly accept every E-Check especially when there is something suspicious (such as old closed accounts) under the person's name. They are allowed to investigate. Two days is not enough time to make the assumption that he is going to be denied his product.

Man, I'm very curious to know why his first account was closed.

Especially since FTP is known for its slow support.

while it may not rise to the level of some severe wrong-doing in some instances it's unreasonable in the time frame of this thread given the current online poker environment and that he's dealing with full tilt support.

he sent at least 8 emails in the day or so this all happened. he's been belligerent in the thread. the title is written in greg oldenesque fashion. nothing about this hints at being reasonable.

it's extremely rare you get your way just by kicking and screaming louder and louder on things like this.

We are missing the big picture...We need OP...

"depositing numerous times on my new account... "

Let me spell it out for you. I____ Asked_____ FTP______ To_____ CLOSE_____ MY_____ OTHER_____ ACCOUNT____so_____I_____COULD____OPEN____THIS____A CCOUNT___THESE____ACCOUNTS____HAVE____NEVER____BEE N____IN___USE____OR_____ACCESSIBLE___AT____THE___S AME___TIME