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02-18-2009 , 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by ws6guy25
MODS lock this thread it is going now where
Oh no. You don't get to do that. Its all out there now.
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02-18-2009 , 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by ws6guy25
MODS lock this thread it is going now where
lol, I like how OP has gotten so quiet now that he realized he was an idiot in addition to being a prick.
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02-18-2009 , 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Suigin406
lol, I like how OP has gotten so quiet now that he realized he was an idiot in addition to being a prick.
You are a moron, have you read any of this or are you just posting to get a rise out of me.
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02-18-2009 , 03:36 PM
The truth always seems to come out eventually. Can someone change the name of this thread to "FTP closed my account for multi-accounting so I decided to commit fraud"?
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02-18-2009 , 03:46 PM
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You are a moron, have you read any of this or are you just posting to get a rise out of me.
Worked, imo
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02-18-2009 , 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by ws6guy25
MODS lock this thread it is going now where
How can a "Law student" act out this way or know so little...
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02-18-2009 , 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by KingOfFelt
The truth always seems to come out eventually. Can someone change the name of this thread to "FTP closed my account for multi-accounting so I decided to commit fraud"?
Or change it to: "I changed my user name and w/ Full Tilt's knowledge so I could open a new account and 2 years later after playing and depositing numerous times on my new account never once signing in on the old account they decided to lock my account with no warning and no response from customer service, but did decide to allow me to deposit into my account so they could just let the money sit dormant so I decided to one up them and **** them harder then they ****ed me by withdrawing my money and alerting the bank of a possible fraudulent charge. Now E-thugs are sticking up for FTP because Phil Ivey reps them and they are a bunch of sheep who will allow foreign companies to commit fraud, but when a American player tries to get answers or a justification for their actions they just hide."

I like that title better
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02-18-2009 , 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by KEW
How can a "Law student" act out this way or know so little...
Haven't got to fraud committed by international companies yet. I do know that any type of contract to fund gambling whether it is through an intermediary or a direct loan to a friend for gambling or a direct deposit into a online casino is ILLEGAL in the UNITED STATES and UNENFORCEABLE as a matter of law.
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02-18-2009 , 03:53 PM
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Or change it to: "I changed my user name and w/ Full Tilt's knowledge so I could open a new account and 2 years later after playing and depositing numerous times on my new account never once signing in on the old account they decided to lock my account with no warning and no response from customer service, but did decide to allow me to deposit into my account so they could just let the money sit dormant so I decided to one up them and **** them harder then they ****ed me by withdrawing my money and alerting the bank of a possible fraudulent charge. Now E-thugs are sticking up for FTP because Phil Ivey reps them and they are a bunch of sheep who will allow foreign companies to commit fraud, but when a American player tries to get answers or a justification for their actions they just hide."

I like that title better
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02-18-2009 , 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by ws6guy25
Or change it to: "I changed my user name and w/ Full Tilt's knowledge so I could open a new account and 2 years later after playing and depositing numerous times on my new account never once signing in on the old account they decided to lock my account with no warning and no response from customer service, but did decide to allow me to deposit into my account so they could just let the money sit dormant so I decided to one up them and **** them harder then they ****ed me by withdrawing my money and alerting the bank of a possible fraudulent charge. Now E-thugs are sticking up for FTP because Phil Ivey reps them and they are a bunch of sheep who will allow foreign companies to commit fraud, but when a American player tries to get answers or a justification for their actions they just hide."

I like that title better
You changed your username with Full Tilt's knowledge so you could open a new account? This does not make sense.
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02-18-2009 , 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by ws6guy25
MODS lock this thread it is going now where
This sentence is so wrong, DUCY?
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02-18-2009 , 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by ws6guy25
Or change it to: "I changed my user name and w/ Full Tilt's knowledge so I could open a new account and 2 years later after playing and depositing numerous times


Now we are starting to get somewhere....Find the above very hard to believe...
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02-18-2009 , 04:02 PM
it sounds to me like mabey you may have more than one account and may have got the email adress confused for the one you deposited on. May have somthing to do with it, If that is the case i Hope you get banned!
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02-18-2009 , 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by ws6guy25
Haven't got to fraud committed by international companies yet. I do know that any type of contract to fund gambling whether it is through an intermediary or a direct loan to a friend for gambling or a direct deposit into a online casino is ILLEGAL in the UNITED STATES and UNENFORCEABLE as a matter of law.
OK Mr " Law Student" what Law is FTP breaking and what is your definition of "Illegal Internet Gambling"??????
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02-18-2009 , 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by ws6guy25
Fraud my ass. First online gaming is illegal so there can't be fraud for an illegal activity. It's not my fault they LET me put money in that I CANT use. So I told them to take the money back from my account or let me use it. Their fault they don't have a phone number. FTP = Scum Bags

Just so you know....in most states it is not illegal to play internet poker or even deposit on a site. It is illegal for a bank t knowingly allow such transactions but my understanding is that there are no reprecussions for a player who tries to do so (except in Washington and maybe Kentucky and other states).

That status really has nothing to do with whether you are knowingly committing fraud anyway. But congratulations for breaking the law and thinking you are doing the right thing.
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02-18-2009 , 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by KEW
OK Mr " Law Student" what Law is FTP breaking and what is your definition of "Illegal Internet Gambling"??????
Fraud, what is depositing for? To put your money in there to play. When they take your money and don't allow you to use it then that's fraud. If they take a penny out of my bank account without me being able to use it on their site it is fraud. Hence why I have prevented them from doing this by flagging my account for a fraudulent E-Check transaction. I told FTP several times to call me and they didn't and I told them I will allow the transactions if they would clarify what's going on and they haven't.
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02-18-2009 , 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by MicroBob
Just so you know....in most states it is not illegal to play internet poker or even deposit on a site. It is illegal for a bank t knowingly allow such transactions but my understanding is that there are no reprecussions for a player who tries to do so (except in Washington and maybe Kentucky and other states).

That status really has nothing to do with whether you are knowingly committing fraud anyway. But congratulations for breaking the law and thinking you are doing the right thing.
What law is that?
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02-18-2009 , 04:14 PM
ooooo, I've never been called an "e-thug" before, I likey!
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02-18-2009 , 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by ws6guy25
What law is that?
I think MB is referring to you pulling funds out of your account so that ftp can't actually charge it, for something you authorized initially. That would be the law you're breaking, something called fraud.
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02-18-2009 , 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by ws6guy25
Fraud, what is depositing for? To put your money in there to play. When they take your money and don't allow you to use it then that's fraud. If they take a penny out of my bank account without me being able to use it on their site it is fraud. Hence why I have prevented them from doing this by flagging my account for a fraudulent E-Check transaction. I told FTP several times to call me and they didn't and I told them I will allow the transactions if they would clarify what's going on and they haven't.

The only fraud is you...FTP did not take a penny from your bank account..You committed fraud by telling BOA to disallow the "pending" E-check that you did authorize....
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02-18-2009 , 04:17 PM
Also, where's nfeugo with his muppet pic?
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02-18-2009 , 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Suigin406
I think MB is referring to you pulling funds out of your account so that ftp can't actually charge it. That would be the law you're breaking, something called fraud.
I don't think you understand, they can take the money out of my FTP account. It's in there not touched. They can take that, touch my Bank Account and that's a different story.
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02-18-2009 , 04:21 PM
Yawn, when you do an e-check, I'm assuming you gave them your banking info, so when you authorize that, they are entitled to charge your BoA account.
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02-18-2009 , 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by ws6guy25
I don't think you understand, they can take the money out of my FTP account. It's in there not touched. They can take that, touch my Bank Account and that's a different story.
That's mighty generous of you considering the money in your FTP account is the the money FTP "loaned" you until the deposit cleared....
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02-18-2009 , 04:28 PM
Well if that is so I would think they would have emailed me by now considering they responded to me when I emailed them with a different email address. At this point it is what it is, they know what's going on and they can take their money back from my account whenever they want. Bank of America rarely let's these transactions go through anyway, I had to pay Poker Stars like $175 because I charged an E-check to my account and they gave me money that I used and BOA declined the charge w/out me saying anything. So I have a feeling that's what is going to happen. I think that's why they haven't responded because they are going to take that money back anyway. Thanks for everyones insight now I know why a few of you have posted some semi-******ed responses.

I mean half of you are right, the other half are just a bunch of nits and deserve the bullet.
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