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Idea for getting rid of PTR:

Give everyone a 5 hour time bank a month to observe. That's 5 table-hours, which is 5 hours of watching 1 table or 1 hour of watching 5 tables. Every x hours you play, you get time added to the observe time bank. This way, noobs are incentivized to play.

Your lobby claims there are like 20K tables, and let's say 5K of them are cash games. PTR would need to create 720K accounts to get 24/7 coverage for 5K tables @ 5 hours a month. God bless PTR if they can do make that many accounts without being obvious about it.

Should be easy to implement. Obviously, you can tweak the numbers. And it has the added benefit of getting rid of the panhandlers.

maybe we can throw the noobs a bone and say 10 hours a month of free observe and another 20 if they make their first deposit. ;-)

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10-29-2010 , 04:16 PM

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AgressiveDog

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Originally Posted by DoubleFly

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10-29-2010 , 04:19 PM

#3478

tripdeuces

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Originally Posted by DoubleFly

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10-29-2010 , 04:27 PM

#3479

bandin

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Originally Posted by DoubleFly

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10-29-2010 , 04:38 PM

#3480

tannenj

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Originally Posted by DoubleFly

+a thousand, one time doug

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10-29-2010 , 04:42 PM

#3481

Frazier

journeyman

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Originally Posted by AceofSpades

People have history, people have reads and screen-name changes eliminate that.

Plus it doesn't erase the fish hurting part where they/and friends/family can look and embarrass them into stopping playing.

Casino's sure as hell don't post a list with pictures of people and how much they lost lifetime.

At one time I was for screen name changes, but not anymore. I think it is important that we still have an option to police our own games, because the sites only care about making money.

See superusers and bots. With SN changes they would be even more difficult to detect in heavy traffic games.

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10-29-2010 , 04:43 PM

#3482

Frazier

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Originally Posted by DoubleFly

Great idea!

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10-29-2010 , 04:45 PM

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flight2q

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Originally Posted by DoubleFly

You have say 10 free hours a month. Since I know you are a reg, you would get say 1 hour of observe for every hour you play. So if you play 10 hours a week, you can observe 50 hours a month. For any reg, this should not affect them at all.

You can easily make this 10 table-hours of observe for each 1 table-hour of real money play. Is PTR gonna hire a bunch of gold miners to get their observation hours? And how obv would that be?

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10-29-2010 , 04:47 PM

#3484

CountingMyOuts

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Originally Posted by flight2q

You can easily make this 10 table-hours of observe for each 1 table-hour of real money play. Is PTR gonna hire a bunch of gold miners to get their observation hours?

They probably will...

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10-29-2010 , 05:08 PM

#3485

Sub-Zer0118

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ftp rocks

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10-29-2010 , 05:14 PM

#3486

Ricky1231

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The whole idea of "learn, chat and play with the pros" sort of goes out the window if they limit the amount that people can railbird.

There are a bunch of random people out there that love to sweat HS games.

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10-29-2010 , 05:16 PM

#3487

ncboiler

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Originally Posted by Sub-Zer0118

ftp rocks

O rly?

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10-29-2010 , 05:17 PM

#3488

Sub-Zer0118

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Sarcasm lol

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10-29-2010 , 05:19 PM

#3489

tzwien

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PTR is not fair or fun, Doug. I want more fair and fun in the world. Get rid of PTR.

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10-29-2010 , 05:25 PM

#3490

dzikijohnny

old hand

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Kill PTR. Also you need to do something about all the fracken beggars who haunt the site. The reason pros don't chat more is because of them. Pokerstars requires you to have money in your account of the buyin level to chat.

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10-29-2010 , 05:25 PM

#3491

notreallymyname

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PTR's probably going to start buying databases from real grinders if they haven't already so they can cover rush to some degree. They're not going anywhere when that happens.

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10-29-2010 , 05:34 PM

#3492

DoubleFly

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Originally Posted by Ricky1231

You just need to tweak the numbers. You would probably want 50 hours per month free. Whatever. At some point, FT may want to incentivize them to play. FT should have the data to figure out what the optimal numbers should be.

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10-29-2010 , 05:39 PM

#3493

neverbeclever

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hopefully nobody is under the impression ftp cant come up with something to get rid of ptr...

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10-29-2010 , 05:42 PM

#3494

KEW

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Originally Posted by Ricky1231

Unlimited viewing at the nosebleed level or if a "Red Pro" is sitting the time does not go against your allotted "time Bank"...

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10-29-2010 , 06:00 PM

#3495

1a2a3a

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Originally Posted by DoubleFly

+1million

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10-29-2010 , 07:14 PM

#3496

hurt

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Originally Posted by DoubleFly

+++++

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10-29-2010 , 07:34 PM

#3497

gutshot1

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I think maybe its time full tilt is informed that their 2+2 rep is not repping them very well. I can't remember when the last time he was on here and responded to our questions and requests. We can't fix the problem unless they are aware with it. If I did what doug has done in any other job I would have been fired by now.

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10-29-2010 , 07:45 PM

#3498

sdrf

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Originally Posted by FDSaussure

I'm pretty sure that the number of players who play FR and earn 50-500 FTPs a day, AND are cognisant of the changes are pretty small. None of them deserve more than they're getting now. All of them would be worse off at Pokerstars.

Well pretty much all black card members would be better of at Pokerstars so why don't they all move there then?

Even if what you say was correct which I don't believe how does it change the fact that throwing a bone to bc members does not exactly make everyone happy which was the statement discussed.

We may be worse of at Stars but there are a lot of other sites that are easy to get 50% on so how is 27% lowered to 20% (or if you want 35% or so to 27%) gonna make us happy if they throw in insta cash to bc members?

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10-29-2010 , 07:52 PM

#3499

mikenxz

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Originally Posted by DoubleFly

+9999999999

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10-29-2010 , 08:03 PM

#3500

TheRaiderr

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Originally Posted by DoubleFly

+1 such an awesome idea.

Also for those who say about the High stakes tables. They could be excluded.

Also they could exclude the time counting if there is a pro a the table. That way anyone can watch a pro play unrestricted.

It is also a good way of generating business. Seems win win to me.

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