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10-16-2009 , 03:41 AM
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Originally Posted by pineapple888
Wait until you start getting the focus hog tables...
Every update the same. You introduce buggy software whilst making unbelievably trivial changes to gameplay, and simultaneously ignoring issue 25, which will impact your business the most.

A serious offer. I would like to teleconference in to your next board meeting. Does anyone there have an idea of what your high value 50k + rake per year customers actually do for a living, or think? Does your IT manager understand that providing a playable gaming environment trumps any trivial changes the business might try to impose, and push back when it is going to be compromised? Does your strategy manager understand that he is trying to maximise value over the long term, and that signing up a Papua New Guinean witch doctor as the latest red pro isn't the solution.

Yes, I'm just tilted about this table focus issue, but seriously for the amount a lot of us play we deserve more of a voice.
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10-16-2009 , 03:44 AM
why stars does not have so many B.S. update?
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10-16-2009 , 03:46 AM
why would we have to pay for the rsa token? why do we have to pay for security, for peace of mind?
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10-16-2009 , 03:46 AM
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Originally Posted by swd805
Does the ftp PIN make much of a difference in security?
dosnt hurt
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10-16-2009 , 04:40 AM
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Originally Posted by chicken10der
awesome update: a feature for the 10 or so people that play ivey's room tables, a new tournament type that nobody ever asked for, and brand new software errors.

can't wait for rsa implementation to go wrong and leave everyone that gets one locked out of their accounts for weeks
lmao wow QFT

Complete joke that we don't get a serious answer about the SS Problem.

Downright disrespectful. We're the customers right? Who would know..

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Originally Posted by YummyYumChicken
why would we have to pay for the rsa token? why do we have to pay for security, for peace of mind?
Also QFT


and paying an extra dollar in rake is insane for Run-it-Twice.

The benefit is that the fish gets to stay longer at the table and generate more rake.

Do the turn-river get both dealt at the same time or one at a time?

If they are both dealt at the same time for each Run, then no extra time is used...

and if it's one by one.. what is used 3 seconds?

and

/in before people having Run-it-Twice clicked by accident and getting screwed over for half of a pot bc of it.
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10-16-2009 , 04:47 AM
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Originally Posted by RiverMustelid
Every update the same. You introduce buggy software whilst making unbelievably trivial changes to gameplay, and simultaneously ignoring issue 25, which will impact your business the most.

A serious offer. I would like to teleconference in to your next board meeting. Does anyone there have an idea of what your high value 50k + rake per year customers actually do for a living, or think? Does your IT manager understand that providing a playable gaming environment trumps any trivial changes the business might try to impose, and push back when it is going to be compromised? Does your strategy manager understand that he is trying to maximise value over the long term, and that signing up a Papua New Guinean witch doctor as the latest red pro isn't the solution.

Yes, I'm just tilted about this table focus issue, but seriously for the amount a lot of us play we deserve more of a voice.
this
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10-16-2009 , 05:05 AM
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Originally Posted by DrewOnTilt
WTF no one is going to force you to opt in for the run-it-twice. I'm not sure that I will do it myself.
It's the ****in point and precedence it sets, Drew! ****, you guys don't get it, why do you think they even did this? Stop being part of the problem, start being part of the solution.
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10-16-2009 , 05:07 AM
I'm not sure how running it twice is supposed to work

the only situation I can see is like, if someone shoves and the other person is to act. this person says "I call. do you want to run it twice?" and then they just timebank and sit there and wait for the other person to say yes or no or whatever. then when both are checked, he calls, and then they get double raked.

no but seriously, is there a pop up dialogue when only one person has it checked, or something? is there anything to pause the action to see if the other person wants to run it twice? FTP's cards in all in situations get dealt at lightning speed as-is (like 3x faster than stars probably) and unless i'm missing something i think elky and raszi are the only people that can use this feature as intended
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10-16-2009 , 05:41 AM
seems like everybody misses the essence of this run-it-twice ****. it is just affect the concept of poker in general. with changes like this you just open the pandora box for ruining the game of poker.

wtf are you doing?!? in a few years we will play with 1 board/flop for each player, other 3 shared ones, and individual side bets over the counter?!? please more conservative (like FIFA with the soccer/footbal rules) and do not invent new hybrid games.

when i saw the picture from here http://www.fulltiltpoker.com/run-it-twice i was thrilled with horror. wtf is this, rummy/baccara/mahjong ??!? even if me (and more others) will not use run-it-twice option ever, playing at the tables when some people use it and see those "solitaire-look-a-like" shows on the table makes me puke...

FTP, please don't ruin the game of poker!!!
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10-16-2009 , 07:00 AM
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Originally Posted by pineapple888
Actually, acting slowly doesn't appear to fix the problem.

I just played a set where I took a full second for each decision.

At least three times, a "focus hog" table still came up, and caused me to time out on most of my other tables.

I have been incredibly patient with Full Tilt over the years, but this is just too much.

FULL TILT, STOP RELEASING STUPID ****ING UPDATES WITH STUPID ****ING **** THAT NOBODY ****ING WANTS, THAT JUST BREAK THE STUFF THAT WAS WORKING FINE.

WHAT THE **** IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE?!?!??!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!?

I would appreciate a fix ASAP or I am FINALLY MOVING THE **** TO STARS BECAUSE I AM SICK OF PUTTING UP WITH YOUR ENDLESS ****ING BULL****.

Thanks for your concern.
+1
this **** is unbearable, fix it asap.
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10-16-2009 , 07:31 AM
Note taking window is still going behind the table most of the time for me on Win XP SP3 with HEM.
Also, there is an occasional bug when I open a new table and wait for big blind, that this table pops up front every time after a decision on another table. This only stops after I have an actual decision on this new table. Very annoying.
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10-16-2009 , 07:32 AM
any updates on implementation for the HU 1 table max per type rule? This really needs to be enforced by the software soon.
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10-16-2009 , 08:00 AM
"Run it twice" will benefit shorties and the fish. lol

Paraphrasing FTP Doug, "We do not want to mess with the poker ecosystem". The min BB at 20 is here to stay. Move to another site or suck it up
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10-16-2009 , 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by YummyYumChicken
why would we have to pay for the rsa token? why do we have to pay for security, for peace of mind?
oh i dunno, because the security tokens actually cost ftp money to buy?

at 5k points your paying as close to nothing as possible and it's a more than reasonable price imo
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10-16-2009 , 09:58 AM
Maybe I am lucky, but I have never had a problem with an FTP update. Doesn't matter if I have a lot of tables going - everything works fine. I might get about a 4 second lag once an hour or so, but it doesn't send me to life tilt. I play limit games though, so my decisions are really just bet/raise/fold.

Does everyone keep their system cleaned out and running as close to 100% as possible?

I am not a poker professional, but I do work as a web applications developer. What a lot of people need to remember is that software like this requires two properly working systems. One on the USER end, and the one of the Full Tilt end.

I know what you are going to say: POKERSTARS WORKS FINE!!!! Therefore Full Tilt should be fine!!! That isn't always the case. There are differences in code architecture and many other issues. Web applications are difficult to fix because there are 2 variables. Your code, and the user computer specifications.

Cliff Version: Make sure everything on your end is up to the task as well. Your frustration with software may be something you can fix.
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10-16-2009 , 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Snipers35
Maybe I am lucky, but I have never had a problem with an FTP update. Doesn't matter if I have a lot of tables going - everything works fine. I might get about a 4 second lag once an hour or so, but it doesn't send me to life tilt. I play limit games though, so my decisions are really just bet/raise/fold.

Does everyone keep their system cleaned out and running as close to 100% as possible?

I am not a poker professional, but I do work as a web applications developer. What a lot of people need to remember is that software like this requires two properly working systems. One on the USER end, and the one of the Full Tilt end.

I know what you are going to say: POKERSTARS WORKS FINE!!!! Therefore Full Tilt should be fine!!! That isn't always the case. There are differences in code architecture and many other issues. Web applications are difficult to fix because there are 2 variables. Your code, and the user computer specifications.

Cliff Version: Make sure everything on your end is up to the task as well. Your frustration with software may be something you can fix.
My guess is that you don't overlap or stack your tables like many of us do. If definitely isn't my system.
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10-16-2009 , 10:36 AM
Fix the bug that causes the table that needs action from not automatically popping up. this happens about once per session while cascading 16 tables and lasts for about 5 minutes.

Build in an automatic timer like some of the ahk programs do. That would be great for us multi-tablers, especially since the active tables are not always popping up due to FT software glitch.
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10-16-2009 , 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by dwalker012
"Run it twice" will benefit shorties and the fish. lol

Paraphrasing FTP Doug, "We do not want to mess with the poker ecosystem". The min BB at 20 is here to stay. Move to another site or suck it up
huh? running it twice wont benefit the fish at all... the fish will incorrectly think it benefits them (and it might short term) ... running it twice will ease the fishes mind about getting it in bad more often, which will benefit better players long term

it doesnt change anything but lower variance... the rake thing is an entirely different and unsettling issue

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Originally Posted by lien
seems like everybody misses the essence of this run-it-twice ****. it is just affect the concept of poker in general. with changes like this you just open the pandora box for ruining the game of poker.

wtf are you doing?!? in a few years we will play with 1 board/flop for each player, other 3 shared ones, and individual side bets over the counter?!? please more conservative (like FIFA with the soccer/footbal rules) and do not invent new hybrid games.

when i saw the picture from here http://www.fulltiltpoker.com/run-it-twice i was thrilled with horror. wtf is this, rummy/baccara/mahjong ??!? even if me (and more others) will not use run-it-twice option ever, playing at the tables when some people use it and see those "solitaire-look-a-like" shows on the table makes me puke...

FTP, please don't ruin the game of poker!!!
ruin the game of poker? running it twice (or more) has been around for ages in live cash games... it hasnt ruined anything yet, and wont ruin online poker either... it just lowers variance, nothing more
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10-16-2009 , 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by panem et circenses
Note taking window is still going behind the table most of the time for me on Win XP SP3 with HEM.
Also, there is an occasional bug when I open a new table and wait for big blind, that this table pops up front every time after a decision on another table. This only stops after I have an actual decision on this new table. Very annoying.
i am getting both of these two, with the table focus thing, it is doing exactly like described above. its completely horrible. i have had to stop three tiems today during a session because it was absolutely unbearable. I use TableNinjaFT and it was the only way i could keep track of what tables to click. Because it highlights the next table that needs action and auto clicks the time bank. And even with this, it was still highly annoying. I cannot even imagine how horrible this is for players not using TableNinjaFT. This is something that needs to be fixed asap, or you're going to lose a lot of customers.
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10-16-2009 , 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by YoureToast
My guess is that you don't overlap or stack your tables like many of us do. If definitely isn't my system.
It very well could be. I don't stack tables completely on top of one another (I do a partial overlap when needed). I just know in my experience working with web applications is that there are more than one variable.

My professional work is with Collegiate Athletic Websites, and I wish I could have a dollar for every time a customer would complain that was fixed with a simple setting on their end, or a plug in... or using a computer that isn't 5 years old and loaded with porn bot cookies and spam.

I guess I just wanted to stand with my fellow developers. It really takes a lot of work sometimes for even the simple things, and you almost always screw up 12 other things with one simple change if you aren't careful.
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10-16-2009 , 11:11 AM
Over the past like 6 updates, i've maby only used 1 of their new features. All people want is RSA and for client to not crash. Simple.
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10-16-2009 , 11:18 AM
All i want to be able to do is play more then 4 tables cascade and have the ****ing tables pop up when needed.
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10-16-2009 , 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by pokurz
All i want to be able to do is play more then 4 tables cascade and have the ****ing tables pop up when needed.
+1,000,000

Is there anything I can do on my end? This bug is costing monies.
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10-16-2009 , 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Snipers35
I guess I just wanted to stand with my fellow developers. It really takes a lot of work sometimes for even the simple things, and you almost always screw up 12 other things with one simple change if you aren't careful.
Dude, most of us posting here are working pros. We already know the stuff you are talking about. My poker computer is dedicated to poker only, for many reasons.

If it was one person, that would be different, but it appears to be a whole bunch of us.

As for changes, I agree that they can **** things up. So why the **** do they keep MAKING stupid ****ing changes?
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10-16-2009 , 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by tclark828
I cant cascade anymore since this update, it keeps losing focus of the correct table and timing me out etc. this happened like at most once a day before the update, now it happens every 5 minutes. please fix ASAP
This was a HUGE problem for me last night, timing out on several tables and needs to be addressed asap.

Also had FT freeze up and I needed to restart it.

SB mouse wheel increments would be great.

FT may or may not do something to 'fix' the SS situation, but the player base has to start and play in deep tables, this is something we can do. I have little doubt that fish will join this games as well, we just need to start making more of them available.

On a lighter note for the ante tables I think treating them like speed tables, and having blinds and ante's auto-posted with a sit out next BB button would be great.

probably have more comments to make but I just woke up.
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