Honestly man it's not out of laziness. I did email pokerstars a little while ago and ask them to send it to me. So I will post it once I get them.

Go read all of the other threads where players have had their funds seized by Stars or Tilt. They usually unravel quickly and OP is found to have been cheating.

The sites don't release proof to players because then it could get on a public forum like this and assist cheaters to cheat better in the future.

Welcome to the zoo btw.

stars 4 month review and resulting guilty verdict should do more for you than a couple hand histories...a lot more

I go to my HH request and it only allows me to search back to the last 200 games. This happened months ago.

Not to be rude or anything because I like Lord of the rings (and I dont know you) but your pic in your profile looks like Frodo. Is there any relation?

Poker sites should share the cheaters names with other poker sites security when players are banned. This gang is going to pop up at some other site now and they're going to be a little smarter.

I'd be interested to see how much all of those accounts made that appear to have been closed by Stars. If OP got $45k from this scam, it's def looking +EV for them to try this again.

Hello,

Jane. When/If you return to answer any additional Questions/Accusations please answer me My question.

DO you play at one of the Chinese workhouse Style schools which Is apparently known to Poker Stars? Have you learned poker there?

It is my understanding that PokerStars has issued a substantial Pass on these Chinese Schools.

Also, I appreciate your Frank and legitimate statement on the existence of cheating.

I do not want any personal Information on you, yes. I only think perhaps your warehouse situation, if It exists, perhaps is an issue. Or else, there is another issue.

well wudiyg was #1 in double or nothing profit in 2009 with $96,000 and started the year with 20k+. I haven't looked up those other names but has to be well over 250k+ i would imagine.

Hi.

Why do you capitalize 'DO' and not 'you'

so...why didn't stars catch this earilier?

they needed other regs to email them 50 times before they looked into it? so if the players never noticed it on a large scale they never would have gotten caught?

its situations exactly like this that make me weary of playing higher stakes on stars

I played at least one $50 DON a while back when I lost a few $20's in a row and I am positive that those were the DON's referenced in that email.

So no, I don't think I will have any HH's for those.

Hangzhou is a sub-provincial city located in the Yangtze River Delta in the People's Republic of China, and the capital of Zhejiang (浙江) province. Located 180 kilometres (112 mi) southwest of Shanghai, as of 2004 the entire Hangzhou Region ("shì", 杭州市) or Prefecture-level city had a registered population of 6.4 million people.[2] The urban agglomeration of the Hangzhou metropolitan area (杭州市区) has a resident population of 3.9319 million as of 2003, of which 2.6367 million are permanent residents. There are 1.91 million residents in the six urban core districts.

It's not exactly a "small town" even by Chinese standards.

who cares if its a small town or a big town...this reflects terribly on stars ability to proactively find collusion in DoNs

I can tell you exactly how it started. They blatantly colluded and some guy started swearing and **** in the chat box basically saying "these ****ing idiots are cheating Im almost sure of it" He got chat banned and than a few of us joined in on our thoughts of it. And it led to complaining about them.

reload, do you have AIM? if you do pm your screen name to me

someone with a sharkscope sub should check out all those names in the OP

curious to know more.

I feel bad for the legit regs at this level having to go through this ****. Hope this doesn't happen again.

hard to disagree. kudos for catching the cheaters. But all (or most) from the same hometown and not exactly subtle about it (evidently) makes one wonder if it was undetected for longer than appropriate.

The high amount that OP won (and I assume some of the other cheaters) makes it kind of difficult to claim that somehow they were caught "quickly." If they weren't caught as fast as they should/could have then one also has to wonder why that was.

A lot of assumptions there and it's all kind of hard to say without more details of course.

still a very big red flag when many chinese start overtaking these double or nothings and should not take over a year to figure out. Also 'Sishun' and 'Superxia' also both from this town were kicked off in july of last year for cheating. They also played 52, 54, and 104 don. They had won over 30k combined and started playing at the same time and only in don's together. I just wonder how big this scandal was....and how much it affected us regs.....I'm just saying that Pokerstars had every opportunity to catch this almost a year ago

Even money says these people live in the same district in hangzhou.

can we get someone from pokerstars that reviewed this situation or is at least familiar with it to comment??

Even money says these people were chinese farming WoW gold 3 years ago

How am I already on page 2 and he hasn't posted a single HH?

Because you didn't read the first and second pages.

I should add/note.

There has been mention here of these workhouse style environments, that Poker Stars has knowledge of.

I will assume, that perhaps, some of these men Have gone off the freelance, and this is the way to Say. No, you play by our Rules in Our situations.

I do not have the Link here, But i have spoken of it before. And others have also.

They are training them IN environs unlike what Is been documented. That they run off into their own situations and Pull the same game is to be expected.


As this subsection is Monitored by PokerStars personal, please be advised. Your American/Other subscribers are not appreciative with this Setup.

Feb 19th OP's account was suspended and the investigation started by security it appears.

What day did you send your e-mail reload4me?