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05-24-2010 , 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by reload4me
Oh ya emails sent like 6 months ago are real easy to find.
I'll assume you are being sarcastic but I have no idea what you mean. I can easily find e-mails I sent or received from several months prior. This shouldn't be difficult at all although I admittedly don't have familiarity with every e-mail service in existence. But all the e-mails I am familiar with have some type of search function where can just type in a name or a word and all the e-mails that include that pop right up for you. Really simple stuff.

If I wanted, I could easily call up every e-mail I have sent back and forth with Stars support for the past several years...or those with my boss...or my Mom.. Or every e-mail in which I used the word "cat".... Whatever.
05-24-2010 , 10:14 PM
Oh a bunch of smart asses huh>? Ok well good luck to all of you in here.

Next time try being patient for more than 15 minutes. It may get you somewhere with your requests.
05-24-2010 , 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Jane1023
My winning is from my skill. I am pretty sure any good Double Nothing player can improve their ROI about 2% if they can learn form me even half hours.
This is the 10000th time u brought up your "skill", which has nothing to do with what PS is banning you for. You're just making yourself look even more suspicious.
05-24-2010 , 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by reload4me
Oh a bunch of smart asses huh>? Ok well good luck to all of you in here.

Next time try being patient for more than 15 minutes. It may get you somewhere with your requests.

I don't understand. What's the problem?
05-24-2010 , 10:22 PM
When 50 people in a same city played in PS.Some of them are cheating.Should all of them be banned? Isn't evidence is the most important for each of them?
05-24-2010 , 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by reload4me
Oh a bunch of smart asses huh>? Ok well good luck to all of you in here.

Next time try being patient for more than 15 minutes. It may get you somewhere with your requests.
don't take microbob's harsh way of dealing with people personally because he behaves that way to everyone. People are just curious for more details as it is bothersome that so many people were involved in collusion. You seem to be effected by it a lot, so we would like to see your side of the story.
If you could please most more info we would appreciate it
05-24-2010 , 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by MicroBob
I don't understand. What's the problem?
[ ] he knew about checkboxes
[x] he should know about now


[?] maybe I'm wrong
05-24-2010 , 10:24 PM
I don't have time to read this whole thread at the moment but I will. I was the #1 player at the time before this acct passed me. I never thought the quality of play added up to this guy beating the games, let alone for more than anybody else. Stars

I can probably post HM stats if necessary that would show this acct as an outlier in many categories.
05-24-2010 , 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Jane1023
When 50 people in a same city played in PS.Some of them are cheating.Should all of them be banned? Isn't evidence is the most important for each of them?
omg your lack of grammar tilts the hell out of me b/c i know you are some chinese shill who cheated other people out of their money and have absolutely no sympathy for doing so. Stars did a comprehensive investigation, they don't say someone has cheated unless there is evidence that they are a cheater.

go **** yourself. it was obvious you cheated, and each time you try to explain yourself you look more guilty.
05-24-2010 , 10:26 PM
05-24-2010 , 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by reload4me
Are you being serious or just kidding around? Because pokerstars concluded they were cheats and refunded me and a whack of people. So they found them to be cheating...did a huge investigation....refunded people and banned them...and you want proof from me?

lol k Ill go through my stuff from months ago and get it for you.
I wanna see some hands, but it's not cause I don't believe you. I more want to see how blatant the cheating is.
05-24-2010 , 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Jane1023
When 50 people in a same city played in PS.Some of them are cheating.Should all of them be banned? Isn't evidence is the most important for each of them?

I'm kind of skimming right now but I haven't seen a part in this thread where the OP has actually said she didn't cheat. All she has said is that she wins a lot and also trying to nitpick about the way that Stars didn't show her any of the hands in which they say it was really obvious that she cheated.

I find this strange and suspicious. What kind of innocent person does this? It reminds me of the Law and Order episodes in the interrogation room where the criminal knows that they know he did it...but keeps teasing them with ideas about how they don't have enough to nail him.
05-24-2010 , 10:35 PM
So anyways this is all I could find. I didnt send any HH requests but I can try and ask if they can send them to me around that time and see if they can.

Hey Im pretty sure there are some heavy colluders/cheatbags on your DoN tables. It seems to me they are squeeze playing big time. Numerous amounts of times I have caught these SAME players squeezing players. Meaning they are raising players out of pots and when they get caught they show up with garbage. Now I would say some people just dont know how to play..but these same like 6 players I catch them doing it to people on different tables all the time....but never to each other. And it isnt just me, its a whack of them who notice this crap. So can you guys look into this? These are some of the players names. Xiah, GJane1023, guiliang, xiawenju..There are a few more that I have written down at home but im at work and this is all I can remember right now..when I get home later Ill send the rest.

Thanks alot and keep me updated please.

I actually misspelled one of the names but I guess they caught on to who I was meaning.

And the reply for this email.



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05-24-2010 , 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by MicroBob
I'm kind of skimming right now but I haven't seen a part in this thread where the OP has actually said she didn't cheat. All she has said is that she wins a lot and also trying to nitpick about the way that Stars didn't show her any of the hands in which they say it was really obvious that he cheated.

I find this strange and suspicious. What kind of innocent person does this? It reminds me of the Law and Order episodes in the interrogation room where the criminal knows that they know he did it...but keeps teasing them with ideas about how they don't have enough to nail him.

So how should I do? Cry? Tell them there are many hands I fight hard with the people in the list? They can see this thousands of time.Only after I see the hands that they thought I played wrong.Then I can explain why I played like this. Isn't it a standard process should be?
05-24-2010 , 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Jane1023
So how should I do? Cry? Tell them there are many hands I fight hard with the people in the list? They can see this thousands of time.Only after I see the hands that they thought I played wrong.Then I can explain why I played like this. Isn't it a standard process should be?
Just please tell me how I noticed it and so did other regs. Than after they did this long drawn out study, you were found guilty by them too. Its impossible that we are all wrong about this. Im a bit of an idiot but remember it wasnt just me who found you guilty...How do you explain that??
05-24-2010 , 10:43 PM
By the way .I never do squeezing play.
05-24-2010 , 10:44 PM
西西。

你是哪里人呀? 中国人都是骗子 :/

In all honesty though, you are probably guilty. Guarantee if i took the train down to where you live and looked at QQ logs, it would be pretty clear that you were guilty.

its not like these things are new. Jason ho said he had a shops running where people would grind these DN's together.
05-24-2010 , 10:44 PM
Jane - Did you notice the cheating of the other players from your hometown? It was pretty obvious, wasn't it? Did you report any of them? Did you find it strange that there suddenly a ton of different players from your hometown playing the same games as you (and cheating)?

What is your hometown and region? (I have asked this more than once but you have not answered yet)
05-24-2010 , 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Jane1023
By the way .I never do squeezing play.
I remember constantly on the bubble or one away...you would raise...I would reraise with a big hand...and one of your pals would reraise me. You would shove and I would call with JJ QQ KK AA and sometimes with AK. and you both would flip over the most utter garbage. You guys would have me outchipped by only a few hundred chips...yet you would try and team up against me and others.

So are you saying you would just gamble on the bubble for basically your tourney life? Its alot easier to crack QQ when I was facing 2-4 all ins.

Last edited by reload4me; 05-24-2010 at 10:56 PM. Reason: speelllllin
05-24-2010 , 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by MicroBob
Jane - Did you notice the cheating of the other players from your hometown? It was pretty obvious, wasn't it? Did you report any of them? Did you find it strange that there suddenly a ton of different players from your hometown playing the same games as you (and cheating)?

What is your hometown and region? (I have asked this more than once but you have not answered yet)

I did not heard about people cheating in 100$ table.But I did heard someone cheat in 10$ table.My home town is Hangzhou City where has west lake.
05-24-2010 , 10:54 PM
我7月20号打算来杭州,为了看我爱人的父母。 你要不要会合?

Ok i will be in Hangzhou from 7/20-7/22

Care to meet up and clear your name?
05-24-2010 , 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by reload4me
I remember constantly on the bubble or one away...you would raise...I would reraise with a big hand...and one of your pals would reraise me. You would shove and I would call with JJ QQ KK AA and sometimes with AK. and you both would flip over the most utter garbage. You guys would have have me outchipped by only a few hundred chips...yet you would try and team up against me and others.

So are you saying you would just gamble on the bubble for basically your tourney life? Its alot easier to crack QQ when I was facing 2-4 all ins.
I do not think you can remember a hand clearly half year ago. And I am very sure I am a very tight player pre flop.What you are saying is definitely not my style.
05-24-2010 , 10:58 PM
Does ANYONE have any HH's with this player? C'mon gang...it can't be this freaking hard.
05-24-2010 , 10:59 PM
A hand or you mean numerous tourneys I was scammed in? K.

good luck with this.
05-24-2010 , 10:59 PM
Just one freaking hand for crying out loud (preferably one that looks at least a teeny bit suspicious against OP). We can progress from there.

      
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