Chico Poker Network (Formerly Action Poker Network)
12-07-2015
, 02:31 AM
From Chico Poker Network site PayNoRake Rakeback terms and conditions
found this in their rakeback terms and conditions
"The rakeback percentage for a player is calculated on a daily basis and is equal to 100% added to the ratio between the sum of the players profit and the sum of the players rake paid for the previous 60 days. The rakeback percentage can never be greater than 100% and can never be less than 0%. The exact formula to calculate rakeback is as follows: 100% + [ (sum of profit over past 60 days) / (sum of rake paid over past 60 days)]."
But this means the players should be due 100% rakeback every single day.
Now they know this that they are lying and look what is the last line
"Errors and omissions excluded"
From wiki
It is regularly used in accounting, to "excuse slight mistakes or oversights."[2]
It is complete irony that such scam sites are allowed to operate freely which are licensed by governments and which are literally stealing money of the poker players and even lying in their terms and conditions blatantly, putting fake messages and not paying their commitments, no punishment is ever going to be enough for these scam artists.
Finally just now email Curacao gaming commission board that I have been scammed out of my money with this scam site PayNoRake which blatantly lies in its own terms and conditions and gives misleading ads,
but the only thing I am sure is that I am not going to see my money again, it is shipped, shipped to fall through the cracks, of who knows what...
I used to remember the days I played online casino, at least I would win some big scores in blackjack and get some money, no idea what is the issue with poker sites, they are ripping every single dollar in the name of skill.
Another thing pops in my mind as to why the hands being returned are not sorted by time,
the only reason of hands being jumbled up and not sorted means that super users can even choose which hands should be dealt at the table and they are stored in the database, when a super user a bad streak to happen he will click it, and the hands of which the outcome is already known will be dealt, he can even click on the hand that should be dealt and will be dealt. These hands will be assigned an id. When players request reports, the hands are fetched sorted by the ids and not by the time, which explains that there is a database of pre-existing hands from which future hands are getting pulled.
this means there is a way to deal the cards bypassing the random number generator. I say this probably because as a player I can only imagine what could be inside a black box when I cannot see the internals.
I see the output and based on that I am conjecturing what is going inside the site. Only the people licensing this site should be able to check this.
This makes me want to conjecture that the site is rigged beyond imagination.
found this in their rakeback terms and conditions
"The rakeback percentage for a player is calculated on a daily basis and is equal to 100% added to the ratio between the sum of the players profit and the sum of the players rake paid for the previous 60 days. The rakeback percentage can never be greater than 100% and can never be less than 0%. The exact formula to calculate rakeback is as follows: 100% + [ (sum of profit over past 60 days) / (sum of rake paid over past 60 days)]."
But this means the players should be due 100% rakeback every single day.
Now they know this that they are lying and look what is the last line
"Errors and omissions excluded"
From wiki
It is regularly used in accounting, to "excuse slight mistakes or oversights."[2]
It is complete irony that such scam sites are allowed to operate freely which are licensed by governments and which are literally stealing money of the poker players and even lying in their terms and conditions blatantly, putting fake messages and not paying their commitments, no punishment is ever going to be enough for these scam artists.
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It is complete irony that such scam sites are allowed to operate freely which are licensed by governments and which are literally stealing money of the poker players and even lying in their terms and conditions blatantly, putting fake messages and not paying their commitments, no punishment is ever going to be enough for these scam artists.
but the only thing I am sure is that I am not going to see my money again, it is shipped, shipped to fall through the cracks, of who knows what...
I used to remember the days I played online casino, at least I would win some big scores in blackjack and get some money, no idea what is the issue with poker sites, they are ripping every single dollar in the name of skill.
Another thing pops in my mind as to why the hands being returned are not sorted by time,
the only reason of hands being jumbled up and not sorted means that super users can even choose which hands should be dealt at the table and they are stored in the database, when a super user a bad streak to happen he will click it, and the hands of which the outcome is already known will be dealt, he can even click on the hand that should be dealt and will be dealt. These hands will be assigned an id. When players request reports, the hands are fetched sorted by the ids and not by the time, which explains that there is a database of pre-existing hands from which future hands are getting pulled.
this means there is a way to deal the cards bypassing the random number generator. I say this probably because as a player I can only imagine what could be inside a black box when I cannot see the internals.
I see the output and based on that I am conjecturing what is going inside the site. Only the people licensing this site should be able to check this.
This makes me want to conjecture that the site is rigged beyond imagination.
Last edited by Mike Haven; 12-08-2015 at 08:30 AM.
Reason: 4 posts merged
12-07-2015
, 03:50 AM
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12-09-2015
, 09:09 AM
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At the moment, no.
In my experience you will need to use mobile/tablet software for your Chromebook. We're working on that though!
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At the moment, no.
In my experience you will need to use mobile/tablet software for your Chromebook. We're working on that though!
We're working on it!
12-09-2015
, 09:12 AM
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12-09-2015
, 09:45 AM
Quote:
From Chico Poker Network site PayNoRake Rakeback terms and conditions
found this in their rakeback terms and conditions
"The rakeback percentage for a player is calculated on a daily basis and is equal to 100% added to the ratio between the sum of the players profit and the sum of the players rake paid for the previous 60 days. The rakeback percentage can never be greater than 100% and can never be less than 0%. The exact formula to calculate rakeback is as follows: 100% + [ (sum of profit over past 60 days) / (sum of rake paid over past 60 days)]."
But this means the players should be due 100% rakeback every single day.
Now they know this that they are lying and look what is the last line
"Errors and omissions excluded"
From wiki
It is regularly used in accounting, to "excuse slight mistakes or oversights."[2]
It is complete irony that such scam sites are allowed to operate freely which are licensed by governments and which are literally stealing money of the poker players and even lying in their terms and conditions blatantly, putting fake messages and not paying their commitments, no punishment is ever going to be enough for these scam artists.
Finally just now email Curacao gaming commission board that I have been scammed out of my money with this scam site PayNoRake which blatantly lies in its own terms and conditions and gives misleading ads,
but the only thing I am sure is that I am not going to see my money again, it is shipped, shipped to fall through the cracks, of who knows what...
I used to remember the days I played online casino, at least I would win some big scores in blackjack and get some money, no idea what is the issue with poker sites, they are ripping every single dollar in the name of skill.
Another thing pops in my mind as to why the hands being returned are not sorted by time,
the only reason of hands being jumbled up and not sorted means that super users can even choose which hands should be dealt at the table and they are stored in the database, when a super user a bad streak to happen he will click it, and the hands of which the outcome is already known will be dealt, he can even click on the hand that should be dealt and will be dealt. These hands will be assigned an id. When players request reports, the hands are fetched sorted by the ids and not by the time, which explains that there is a database of pre-existing hands from which future hands are getting pulled.
this means there is a way to deal the cards bypassing the random number generator. I say this probably because as a player I can only imagine what could be inside a black box when I cannot see the internals.
I see the output and based on that I am conjecturing what is going inside the site. Only the people licensing this site should be able to check this.
This makes me want to conjecture that the site is rigged beyond imagination.
found this in their rakeback terms and conditions
"The rakeback percentage for a player is calculated on a daily basis and is equal to 100% added to the ratio between the sum of the players profit and the sum of the players rake paid for the previous 60 days. The rakeback percentage can never be greater than 100% and can never be less than 0%. The exact formula to calculate rakeback is as follows: 100% + [ (sum of profit over past 60 days) / (sum of rake paid over past 60 days)]."
But this means the players should be due 100% rakeback every single day.
Now they know this that they are lying and look what is the last line
"Errors and omissions excluded"
From wiki
It is regularly used in accounting, to "excuse slight mistakes or oversights."[2]
It is complete irony that such scam sites are allowed to operate freely which are licensed by governments and which are literally stealing money of the poker players and even lying in their terms and conditions blatantly, putting fake messages and not paying their commitments, no punishment is ever going to be enough for these scam artists.
Finally just now email Curacao gaming commission board that I have been scammed out of my money with this scam site PayNoRake which blatantly lies in its own terms and conditions and gives misleading ads,
but the only thing I am sure is that I am not going to see my money again, it is shipped, shipped to fall through the cracks, of who knows what...
I used to remember the days I played online casino, at least I would win some big scores in blackjack and get some money, no idea what is the issue with poker sites, they are ripping every single dollar in the name of skill.
Another thing pops in my mind as to why the hands being returned are not sorted by time,
the only reason of hands being jumbled up and not sorted means that super users can even choose which hands should be dealt at the table and they are stored in the database, when a super user a bad streak to happen he will click it, and the hands of which the outcome is already known will be dealt, he can even click on the hand that should be dealt and will be dealt. These hands will be assigned an id. When players request reports, the hands are fetched sorted by the ids and not by the time, which explains that there is a database of pre-existing hands from which future hands are getting pulled.
this means there is a way to deal the cards bypassing the random number generator. I say this probably because as a player I can only imagine what could be inside a black box when I cannot see the internals.
I see the output and based on that I am conjecturing what is going inside the site. Only the people licensing this site should be able to check this.
This makes me want to conjecture that the site is rigged beyond imagination.
Hello,
Please accept my apologies on the behalf of the network for the experience you've had.
I can assure you that our games are not rigged in anyway. Our game is completely fair and the hands generated are random. If we had to rig the games it would stop being entertaining, we'd lose players and lose money. This isn't a viable business model if we expect to be around for a long time to come - which I assure you, we do!
We don't allow superuser accounts for the same reason above. If you're playing against someone who appears to be predicting your next move you're not going to want to play, let alone deposit. This is true for any poker room out there.
With regards to the hands being sorted by ID rather than date. It should be exactly the same because hands are numbered uniquely from oldest to newest. As in if you play a hand now it could be 1111152 but, an hour from now the hand could be 1111425. Same applies to tournaments.
With regards to our rakeback structure, if you follow the formula on the website and use a scientific calculator (Google calculator is easy to use: https://www.google.com/webhp?sourcei...8#q=calculator), you'll see that the resulting rakeback is anywhere between 0 and 100% based on your numbers over a 60 day rolling window.
If you refer to the Terms and Conditions of the 24 pay out guarantee, you'll see that it refers to the actual deposit request. This means that if you request a withdrawal now and you only receive it 36 hours from now, you will be paid your withdrawal twice. If you request a withdrawal now and your documents are not in order, or there's an issue with your account and it is cancelled, that withdrawal request is deemed complete. Your next withdrawal is separate from the previous one. Time between initial request, sorting out issues on the account and then requesting your withdrawal again isn't cumulative.
Once again, please accept our apologies for the experience you've had.
Regards,
Rachel
TigerGaming Rep
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