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08-28-2007 , 01:25 PM
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Guys,this is hopeless.Its like trying to debate a religious fool that says,prove to me my specific god doesnt exist.Rather than being logical and wanted proof that something imaginary does in fact exist,they demand proof that the imaginary doesnt exist.Only a complete fool would take this line,which is good for the games i suppose,as its probably slightly less foolish poker lines that have them losing to begin with.

Bwhahahaha. You're comparing God to a ***** server that contains software programmed by humans.....

LOL
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08-28-2007 , 02:05 PM
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so, if i'm sitting at a full table of 9 players, and 5 of us have cashed out recently.

3 people to the flop, all 3 of these people have cashed out within the last 3 days.

Who gets cursed?

the person who cashed out the most recent?
the person who cashed out the most $$$$$?
person who has chased out the most consistantly?
According to Robert's Rules of Poker, the player with the biggest stack would get the curse here. In the event of a tie, it would be the player in earliest position.
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08-28-2007 , 03:29 PM
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08-28-2007 , 03:38 PM
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I better call 911 and have them flyout to pokerstars server location.

bwahahahahah



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http://www.gov.im/dha/police/

The Chief Constable of the Isle of Man is Mr Mike Culverhouse his Telephone is + 44 (0) 1624 631212 I am sure he would be extremely interested in your allegations if you had even one iota of proof.
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08-28-2007 , 04:32 PM
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I better call 911 and have them flyout to pokerstars server location.

bwahahahahah


http://www.gov.im/dha/police/

The Chief Constable of the Isle of Man is Mr Mike Culverhouse his Telephone is + 44 (0) 1624 631212 I am sure he would be extremely interested in your allegations if you had even one iota of proof.

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LOL the tards are coming out in droves.
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08-28-2007 , 04:47 PM
something strange does seem to be going on with Pokerstars....
I've checked my records and it seems that I often make a deposit shortly after I go broke
Yes ....this has happened more than once.
weird

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08-28-2007 , 05:00 PM
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I better call 911 and have them flyout to pokerstars server location.

bwahahahahah


http://www.gov.im/dha/police/

The Chief Constable of the Isle of Man is Mr Mike Culverhouse his Telephone is + 44 (0) 1624 631212 I am sure he would be extremely interested in your allegations if you had even one iota of proof.
LOL the tards are coming out in droves.

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Is everyone who does not think it's rigged and asked you to provide even a little evidence a "tard", "idiot", "douche bag", or "moron"?
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08-28-2007 , 08:16 PM
I've never seen anyone owned by logic any harder than realjaydub is getting owned in this thread. And he doesn't even realize it. Scary...but awesome for poker!
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08-28-2007 , 08:24 PM
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I've never seen anyone owned by logic any harder than realjaydub is getting owned in this thread. And he doesn't even realize it. Scary...but awesome for poker!
What logic is that turd?

The nerd herd twenty somethings around here are so quick to jump to conclusions about everything.

Just prove the rng is legit. All of you online pros that beat teh pokah game for one trillion dollars a year should be able to post some stats...

How is it "awesome" for poker? I won't play online anymore until I see concrete evidence they are fair and legit.

I'm still waiting on test results.
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08-28-2007 , 08:26 PM
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I better call 911 and have them flyout to pokerstars server location.

bwahahahahah


http://www.gov.im/dha/police/

The Chief Constable of the Isle of Man is Mr Mike Culverhouse his Telephone is + 44 (0) 1624 631212 I am sure he would be extremely interested in your allegations if you had even one iota of proof.
LOL the tards are coming out in droves.
Is everyone who does not think it's rigged and asked you to provide even a little evidence a "tard", "idiot", "douche bag", or "moron"?

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No, anyone who insist I call the police to knock down pokerstars door is a tard, and idiot, a douche bag and a moron.

There's nothing illegal about tweaking a rng to max your profits, if that is what's happening here.
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08-28-2007 , 08:59 PM
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There's nothing illegal about tweaking a rng to max your profits, if that is what's happening here.
You continue to lie like a lying liar who lies.

While legislation like this would exist in every Western society on earth (and, presumably, many others) I've provided an extract from the Victorian crimes act because that is most accessible to me:

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82 Obtaining financial advantage by deception
(1) A person who by any deception dishonestly obtains for himself or another any financial
advantage is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to level 5 imprisonment (10 years
maximum).
Note: This is not legal advice. If you wish to obtain legal advice, see a professional
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08-28-2007 , 09:02 PM
realjaydub, why haven't you addressed my question on why they would rig a tournament hand (without a one word answer) and my comment that I've never personally had a downswing after withdrawing on any of the multiple sites I've played on?
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08-28-2007 , 09:10 PM
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Just prove the rng is legit.
The absurdity of this statement in and of itself proves that your lack of training in, and lack of understanding of, math and statistics makes any attempt at rational discussion on the subject pointless and futile.

I would suggest that some education in these areas would show you the errors of your positions and assumptions.
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08-28-2007 , 09:18 PM
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Just prove the rng is legit.
The absurdity of this statement in and of itself proves that your lack of training in, and lack of understanding of, math and statistics makes any attempt at rational discussion on the subject pointless and futile.

I would suggest that some education in these areas would show you the errors of your positions and assumptions.

"Absurdity" ORLY? Is it so absurd pokerstars tries to prove it's legit by saying Cigital put it's stamp of approval on it? It's just absurd someone wants to know if a piece of software is legit,, just absurd I tell you.




I dont needs me any edumaction to see that an online software could be rigged for profit...

Please HERO, with all of your training in statistics, show me the proof...I mean you have to be making a million a year right?

Show it up.
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08-28-2007 , 09:20 PM
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There's nothing illegal about tweaking a rng to max your profits, if that is what's happening here.
You continue to lie like a lying liar who lies.

While legislation like this would exist in every Western society on earth (and, presumably, many others) I've provided an extract from the Victorian crimes act because that is most accessible to me:

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82 Obtaining financial advantage by deception
(1) A person who by any deception dishonestly obtains for himself or another any financial
advantage is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to level 5 imprisonment (10 years
maximum).
Note: This is not legal advice. If you wish to obtain legal advice, see a professional
Josem the ******.

Does the Canadian police for US citizens now? Does Canada have a gaming commission that oversees pokerstars?

You can quit posting now.
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08-28-2007 , 09:23 PM
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Does the Canadian police for US citizens now? Does Canada have a gaming commission that oversees pokerstars?
I don't understand how that relates to my post.

If you are in the US, as I said in my previous post, you would have similar legislation to what I quoted. The police are required to uphold the law. If you believe you or other people have been defrauded, it is your civic duty to report it to the police. This is not a complicated concept to understand.
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08-28-2007 , 09:27 PM
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Does the Canadian police for US citizens now? Does Canada have a gaming commission that oversees pokerstars?
I don't understand how that relates to my post.

If you are in the US, as I said in my previous post, you would have similar legislation to what I quoted. The police are required to uphold the law. If you believe you or other people have been defrauded, it is your civic duty to report it to the police. This is not a complicated concept to understand.
You're an idiot and a ****** and a douche bag.

I'm not a Canadian so shove your laws where the sun doesn't shine.

If Pokerstars is rigged, it's certainly not against the law in the USA ******. ONCE AGAIN MORON....The USA does not have a gaming commission that oversees online poker...

Rigging the RNG is NOT AGAINST THE LAW.


Don't you have a game of dungeon and dragons to play?
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08-28-2007 , 09:30 PM
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realjaydub, why haven't you addressed my question on why they would rig a tournament hand (without a one word answer) and my comment that I've never personally had a downswing after withdrawing on any of the multiple sites I've played on?
Well count yourself lucky.

Why would they? Give the money to the fish so they will keep playing. Better players will take more beats and it evens out the money so they can retain rake from x number of people instead of y number of people...x > y

ducy?
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08-28-2007 , 09:32 PM
I think realjaydub thinks that anything that happens out of the U.S. cannot be trusted.

I'm almost ashamed to be in the same country as him, and I apologize to all non-Americans who have to deal with his seemingly prejudicial attitude.
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08-28-2007 , 09:37 PM
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I think realjaydub thinks that anything that happens out of the U.S. cannot be trusted.

I'm almost ashamed to be in the same country as him, and I apologize to all non-Americans who have to deal with his seemingly prejudicial attitude.

God damn you a ****** too.

When did I say anything about another country?

Canadian laws don't pertain to me unless I'm in Canada now do they?

LOL at predujicial attitude.

I've traveled the world and always carry the utmost respect in the land i'm in.

I don't live under Canadian laws in America end of story ******.

Now you going to say something about me hating jews next?
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08-28-2007 , 09:38 PM
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realjaydub, why haven't you addressed my question on why they would rig a tournament hand (without a one word answer) and my comment that I've never personally had a downswing after withdrawing on any of the multiple sites I've played on?
Well count yourself lucky.

Why would they? Give the money to the fish so they will keep playing. Better players will take more beats and it evens out the money so they can retain rake from x number of people instead of y number of people...x > y

ducy?
Count myself lucky? Over 240,000 hands I've played... and it's luck that I'm not doomswitched on any site I've played on? That's a pretty weak explanation. Your whole argument is that doomswitches/rigged sites take away the luck from poker so that good players lose or at least lose more than they would in a non-rigged game.

Also, why is it that the biggest winners on this site (not $ wise, but at the stakes they play at) are very good players who don't believe it's rigged, not total donkeys?
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08-28-2007 , 09:39 PM
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I'm not a Canadian so shove your laws where the sun doesn't shine.
Huh? I never said you were Canadian. I'm not Canadian either - I've never even been to Canada.

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If Pokerstars is rigged, it's certainly not against the law in the USA ******.
You continue to lie like a lying liar that lies.

Your US Department of Justice has a whole page devoted to frauds perpetrated over the internet at http://www.usdoj.gov/criminal/fraud/internet/

The US FBI has a site online at http://www.ifccfbi.gov/ where you can report your suspected internet fraud.

You need to do this - or to stop making your unsubstantiated accusations.

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ONCE AGAIN MORON....The USA does not have a gaming commission that oversees online poker...
This is irrelevant. They have a police service that polices fraud.

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Rigging the RNG is NOT AGAINST THE LAW.
Yes, I believe it would be. Someone who is rigging a RNG is quite obviously:
a) misleading customers
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b) obtaining a financial advantage by doing this

While different jurisdictions will have different wordings, that would have to fall under almost anyone's definition of fraud.
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08-28-2007 , 09:40 PM
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realjaydub, why haven't you addressed my question on why they would rig a tournament hand (without a one word answer) and my comment that I've never personally had a downswing after withdrawing on any of the multiple sites I've played on?
Well count yourself lucky.

Why would they? Give the money to the fish so they will keep playing. Better players will take more beats and it evens out the money so they can retain rake from x number of people instead of y number of people...x > y

ducy?
Count myself lucky? Over 240,000 hands I've played... and it's luck that I'm not doomswitched on any site I've played on? That's a pretty weak explanation. Your whole argument is that doomswitches/rigged sites take away the luck from poker so that good players lose or at least lose more than they would in a non-rigged game.

Also, why is it that the biggest winners on this site (not $ wise, but at the stakes they play at) are very good players who don't believe it's rigged, not total donkeys?

Then it should be easy to show me proof now wouldn't idiot?

It's funny how the two or three ******s here are getting so worked up about me saying there's a chance the rng is flawed.

Why are you so defensive???? Sounds like I might be on to something.

Oh btw, lilholdem the gansta tard....he one of their "bigger winners" and he belives it's rigged.
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08-28-2007 , 09:42 PM
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Canadian laws don't pertain to me unless I'm in Canada now do they?
No one ever claimed they did.
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08-28-2007 , 09:44 PM
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I think realjaydub thinks that anything that happens out of the U.S. cannot be trusted.

I'm almost ashamed to be in the same country as him, and I apologize to all non-Americans who have to deal with his seemingly prejudicial attitude.
God damn you a ****** too.
Well that sure is uncalled for.

I was simply stating that, from my observations, some of your (very hostile, IMHO) retorts address the fact that the companies that check to make sure sites are not in fact rigged are located outside of the U.S., and it seems that you hold the belief that if they were located and regulated in the U.S., then it would be legit. It seems to me that you're overlooking the fact that there are regulations in the countries that these sites reside in.
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