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05-28-2009 , 09:15 AM
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05-28-2009 , 09:50 AM
Are those of you in favor of time banks the same people in favor of huds?
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05-28-2009 , 11:06 AM
I would like Time banks, but no HUDS.
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05-28-2009 , 11:11 AM
My cake software seems to freeze then come back on about 10 mins into EVERY session. Its weird it always does at exactly like 10 mins in. Of course during the freeze I usually time out of at least one hand. And then the chat window resets. And fwiw I usually 4-5 table.
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05-28-2009 , 12:11 PM
Why would anybody think that a timebank is intrinsically linked to a HUD? Maybe some of us experience this disconnect problem and don't want to time out when we're ahead. Also, if people are multitabling and facing a couple difficult decisions, a timebank is nice as well.
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05-28-2009 , 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by MyriadChoices
Why would anybody think that a timebank is intrinsically linked to a HUD? Maybe some of us experience this disconnect problem and don't want to time out when we're ahead. Also, if people are multitabling and facing a couple difficult decisions, a timebank is nice as well.
I would think people would be against huds because it makes it easier for people to make better decisions, as well as play many more tables with a higher win rate then they would ordinarily be able to achieve. Doesn't a time bank allow people to make better decisions and play considerably more tables than without one?

This is the first time I have heard of this d/c thing, but I have ran Cake without any bug like this for 2 years on 4 different computers on both vista and xp. So if your having some issue I would suggest upgrading your computer/internet connection or just playing on a different site where you don't have any d/c issues.
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05-28-2009 , 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Vegetarian
I would think people would be against huds because it makes it easier for people to make better decisions
and adding a timebank would?? (hint: see bold above)
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05-28-2009 , 01:24 PM
a few improvements I would like to see

-- re iterating,timebanks for cash games is a must, too much money on the line in some pots for a 15 second decision.

--ability to make notes on a player who has left the table before you have a chance to click on them . I realise this would be alot more difficult to implement, but on a site that has no huds(no complaints about this!), note taking is much more important.

--sound options, that is, at least the ability to turn it off.
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05-28-2009 , 01:26 PM
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05-28-2009 , 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Vegetarian
I would think people would be against huds because it makes it easier for people to make better decisions, as well as play many more tables with a higher win rate then they would ordinarily be able to achieve. Doesn't a time bank allow people to make better decisions and play considerably more tables than without one?

This is the first time I have heard of this d/c thing, but I have ran Cake without any bug like this for 2 years on 4 different computers on both vista and xp. So if your having some issue I would suggest upgrading your computer/internet connection or just playing on a different site where you don't have any d/c issues.
I would think people are against HUDs because it allows them to reap the benefits of a program consolidating information on a player w/o the actual player having to be attentive, not because it allows people to 'make better decisions'. Doesn't showing the pot size at the top of a table do the same thing? Either way, a HUD and time bank are so vastly unrelated that connecting them in this manner is just stupid, imo. If I'm playing a bunch of tables, sometimes it'd be nice to have more than 15 seconds. This is a basic thing integrated on virtually every other poker site and there is no benefit to not having it. Crusading against multitabling, which is what the argument amounts to, is again, dumb. Not wanting a HUD is understandable; I think it's foolish but if it bothers me enough to move, I would. It doesn't, so I don't. Not wanting a time bank makes no sense.

As for the disconnect problem, I'm not the only one experiencing this issue. I don't know if it was ITT or in the other one, but other people mentioned an issue where cake randomly DCs and all the tables go to white.

And either way, if you should happen to DC for a short period of time, but long enough to possibly impact yr decision to act on a table, wouldn't you at least want DC protection? Or does that make decisions much too easy as well?
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05-28-2009 , 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by MyriadChoices
I would think people are against HUDs because it allows them to reap the benefits of a program consolidating information on a player w/o the actual player having to be attentive, not because it allows people to 'make better decisions'. Doesn't showing the pot size at the top of a table do the same thing? Either way, a HUD and time bank are so vastly unrelated that connecting them in this manner is just stupid, imo. If I'm playing a bunch of tables, sometimes it'd be nice to have more than 15 seconds. This is a basic thing integrated on virtually every other poker site and there is no benefit to not having it. Crusading against multitabling, which is what the argument amounts to, is again, dumb. Not wanting a HUD is understandable; I think it's foolish but if it bothers me enough to move, I would. It doesn't, so I don't. Not wanting a time bank makes no sense.

As for the disconnect problem, I'm not the only one experiencing this issue. I don't know if it was ITT or in the other one, but other people mentioned an issue where cake randomly DCs and all the tables go to white.

And either way, if you should happen to DC for a short period of time, but long enough to possibly impact yr decision to act on a table, wouldn't you at least want DC protection? Or does that make decisions much too easy as well?
1. Yes, I would prefer if the pot size was not shown at the top of the table. It would make the games more profitable for me.

2. Huds are also allowed on most other poker sites that doesn't mean cake should automatically implement them. That most other sites have time banks is also not a reason for cake to implement them. There is a very clear benefit to not having a time bank. People are forced to make decisions faster. This not only makes the games softer by making it more difficult for good players to play more tables, but it forces people who do not have a good thought process to rush decisions and often make worse decisions than if they would have had another minute to think through the hand. No time banks also allow for more hands/hour which if you are a winning player you should want.

3. I am not against multi tabling and I most likely play more tables than most people on the cake network (12-16). I would prefer it if the regulars had difficulty playing a lot of tables because of a lack of a time bank.

As I understand it the issue where cake locks up and the tables go white randomly occurs when tables are being closed. An easy way to avoid it is not not close any tables until you are done with your session.

And no I wouldn't want DC protection as it just slows the games down. I always hate it when I am playing on another site and 1 table is in limbo for a minute because someone d/ced before they even acted pre-flop. We are in the age of high speed low costs internets. I honestly can't remember the last time my internets have failed me.
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05-28-2009 , 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by E5150
a few improvements I would like to see

--ability to make notes on a player who has left the table before you have a chance to click on them . I realise this would be alot more difficult to implement, but on a site that has no huds(no complaints about this!), note taking is much more important.

--sound options, that is, at least the ability to turn it off.
+1 on both these points
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05-28-2009 , 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by ak7062
+1 on both these points
9-max on cash games is in effect now. Very nice.

You have to turn sounds off at an active table. When you have a table open, click the icon next to the chat box (lower right hand corner). Click the "display" tab and select "silent" in the sounds box.

None of this is intuitive but it is available and it will apply it to all the tables you play.
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05-28-2009 , 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by AmbitiousDreamer
really? could u give me an example? I'm canadian too. I just noticed they removed the daniel negreanu book noooo.
Just pick any item in the canadian store and compare its cost in the american store. I'm at work now so I can't access the stores but for example the same TV in the Cdn store will cost 10000 gold chips yet it will only cost 8200 in the U.S store
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05-28-2009 , 03:23 PM
Canadian taxes on importation ?
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05-28-2009 , 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Vegetarian
stuff

You're weird.
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05-28-2009 , 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Dragon Slayer
My cake software seems to freeze then come back on about 10 mins into EVERY session. Its weird it always does at exactly like 10 mins in. Of course during the freeze I usually time out of at least one hand. And then the chat window resets. And fwiw I usually 4-5 table.
I also have this same problem except mine will happen several times during longer sessions. I think it generally happens when adding more tables. Most of the time it will freeze only a few tables while others still work fine.
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05-28-2009 , 07:19 PM
little off subject, but does anyone ever type notes on a player and then the text just skips to the top or to a different line, resulting in mumbled jibberish of words that make no sense?
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05-28-2009 , 07:24 PM
The graphics/animations are really messed up at the new 9max tables.
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05-28-2009 , 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by sactownjoey
9-max on cash games is in effect now. Very nice.

You have to turn sounds off at an active table. When you have a table open, click the icon next to the chat box (lower right hand corner). Click the "display" tab and select "silent" in the sounds box.

None of this is intuitive but it is available and it will apply it to all the tables you play.

thanks for this, I thought I looked everywhere.
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05-28-2009 , 08:27 PM
Sorry, but I find nothing at all "nice" about the new 9 max tables. It is just another money grubbing ploy to get a little more money out of the players. I have played at PokerHost for over 2 years now, but their exhorbitant cash out fees for US players ($75 for a check, really now, is that bad or what?), really bad software on Cake, and now the 9 player tables are going to make me say goodbye to PokerHost very soon now. There are so many better rooms. It's so easy to get your money in at PokerHost and so hard to get it out if you are from the US.
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05-28-2009 , 09:14 PM
I am a low stakes player, typically having as low as $100, and as much as $350 in my account at any given time. What would keep me, as a US player, playing at Pokerhost (Cake network)?

Make the following changes: Get some cash out options that do not kill you as a small stakes player.

When I want $100 from my account at PokerStars, they send me $100, no fees, no questions. Not true at PokerHost. At PokerHost the cheapest option to withdraw is a Moneygram, for which the fee is $25 minimum. The most expensive is bank wire or check for which there is a $75 fee. For a $100 withdrawal, there goes 25% of my hard earned money. And that is not all of it. If you are so unlucky as to have less than $125 in your account, you can not use the Moneygram method, as the withdrawal minimum is $100.

I am not going to keep playing at a site where I am charged from 25% to 75% (i.e.$75 for a check) of my money to withdraw a little bit of it. (But for a small stakes player like me, $100 is an amount I would like to have)
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05-28-2009 , 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by ngseeker
I am a low stakes player, typically having as low as $100, and as much as $350 in my account at any given time. What would keep me, as a US player, playing at Pokerhost (Cake network)?

Make the following changes: Get some cash out options that do not kill you as a small stakes player.

When I want $100 from my account at PokerStars, they send me $100, no fees, no questions. Not true at PokerHost. At PokerHost the cheapest option to withdraw is a Moneygram, for which the fee is $25 minimum. The most expensive is bank wire or check for which there is a $75 fee. For a $100 withdrawal, there goes 25% of my hard earned money. And that is not all of it. If you are so unlucky as to have less than $125 in your account, you can not use the Moneygram method, as the withdrawal minimum is $100.

I am not going to keep playing at a site where I am charged from 25% to 75% (i.e.$75 for a check) of my money to withdraw a little bit of it. (But for a small stakes player like me, $100 is an amount I would like to have)
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[ ] Cake GAF
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05-28-2009 , 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Young Moneyyy
little off subject, but does anyone ever type notes on a player and then the text just skips to the top or to a different line, resulting in mumbled jibberish of words that make no sense?
Happens all the time for me (at least it used to when I played on the network)
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05-29-2009 , 01:41 AM
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Originally Posted by excellent!
something that i have noticed and have always thought strange was i always seem to make my strong flops in the big blind in an unraised pot. in the last 3 weeks, half of my flopped strong hands have been while i was in the big blind in an unraised pot. im sure the math all adds up correctly when it comes to the rng but they aren't so random when it comes to calling 20 raises and not flopping crap, but flopping good hands 3 times in a row in the big blind in an unraised pot.

sigh

p.s. fail
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