Can't compare how so? I can say Cake's check minimum while less than most and most certainly an inconvenience is still much more reliable and faster. Forget about the FT checks that had the issues with New York legislature?

No doubt that its simply my opinion of HUD's, but I don't need to know what your tendencies on 4th street are, or how often you 3 bet pre-flop. Poker was NEVER meant to be played with this much technology. It's weak, could care less if you view it differently or anyone else. Software is for cheats imo. I like the integrity of Cake not allowing HUD's legally on the site.

anyways, this is a feedback thread, which is both for positive and negative. I agree there is more negative here, but generally, no one complains about the good.

+1 on all your points Mr.Lawrence "I'll decide when he's had enough man"

Fair enough and I'm not trying to give you a hard time, I read this thread all the time and very rarely post but today had me really fed up.

If Cake players won't look to the positives then why would anyone else reading this thread want to play on Cake. I give Cake a big endorsement whenever I can.

The guys that are doing all of the negative talk about Cake obviously have short sighted vision and can't see that they are only hurting the prospect of getting new players to the site.

Let me clarify that I meant every word of my recommendation rant and in no way am I building cake up simply hoping to get new users on Cake. Lee and the rest of Cake management will get it done, it won't be easy, but if more people are willing to mention the good the faster it will happen.

I would much rather focus on the future in positive ways instead of bitching about what Cake lacks.

The promotions Cake has been throwing out can't be matched. I challenge anyone to argue this.

IMO, if you want to attract new players, you need to spend $$ on advertising. and I'm not talking about in cardplayer, where regulars have already heard of cake. I'm talking about TV commercials.

Granted, this is a risky proposition, because they need to attach a famous face to their product. And if it they invested all the $ necessary and didn't hit the number of players they forecast, it could put them out of business.

I do not want anybody reading this thread to play on cake.

I play 6-max NLHE and PLO and would really like to play on cake but i can't even stand to play there for long enough to make the withdraw minimum.

First, because the software is so bad/ugly that I'm annoyed the entire time I try to play.

Second, there are so few games.

Third, the gold chips/stacks/etc etc also annoy the piss out of me. I don't even care enough to try to figure out what they are and what I can do with them. I'd rather just play somewhere else and keep it simple.

I haven't seen the new software but if they have some really good/simple table layouts or allow for customization, it's a step in the right direction.

I would also like to play 4-12 tables of the same limit & game. It's starts to get pretty hard for me to play more than 4 with no HUD. I haven't even tried to play more than 4 because it's all I can tile and see.

I don't understand why cake tries to go against the grain when the stars and ftp model clearly works. If it were more seamless for me to switch between the 3, I would play there and I think a lot of other people would too.

Just thought I should give my point of view as someone that has funds on cake, is willing to play there, but doesn't.

If they wanted to advertise cheaply they'd sponsor MMA fighters at a fraction of the cost and hit their target market. This past UFC is expected to have 850k PPV buys not to mention the fan expo in Las Vegas that attracted over 125k, + all the bars, restaurants and Casino's that broadcast it to many more people. I can't understand why any site would not consider this cheap and effective advertising.

Sorry you can't make it without a HUD.

What is so hard about Gold Stacks? Simpleton?

You clear a gold stack and you get instant cash into your balance. As you increase levels the cash increases as well. If you can't understand Gold Stacks you haven't even spent 2 minutes trying to understand it. It's a very simple concept.

When I play multiple tables cash, I minimize each table to smallest size and play 9 on my 32" monitor. Pretty simple considering when my turn comes up on any game that table pops up as well.

You guys are laughable.

I don't think Cake has a huge budget for advertising and that is definitely holding them back. As a marketing guy myself there are many creative ways to get your name out there without the use of Card magazines. I agree with you 100%. They need to do a better job in this area.

well it seems that Cake's traffic is going down the toilet. Their traffic is down 50% from its peak 6 months ago. Sure PlayersOnly and Sportsbook left, but it doesn't appear that many have come back despite RB, rakerace, deposit bonus, and re-establishing their GoldStack and goldchips. I'd say in a year from now the player base will be so sparse, they'll have to rename it Cupcake.

Why would I want to? I can just play somewhere else. I can play 12+ at full size, watch TV and have multiple conversations on AIM/Skype etc if I play somewhere else.

It's not even about that. I don't care about the guy across the table getting a gold card. I don't care to take 4 seconds to figure out what a gold stack is. I will never care.

What's so hard about a progress bar if they want to give bonuses?

Simpleton? When it comes to poker, yes. Just give me cards and decisions to make. Hopefully my mine are better than my opponents. Anything else is encouraging me to play somewhere else.

@Kobra - Some of your points are definitely valid. I think that complaints about traffic are sorta legit though... I don't mind playing tables full of RB grinding regs honestly, people would be surprised how bad many of the regs are. I honestly wonder how some of them have a roll (I imagine they are props or just break even with RB etc). It's not as good as a fish, but I will play a crappy autopiloting reg happily, and the small stakes cash games are mostly full of mediocre regs and fish.
The problem is when there's 0-2 200nl FR games going, 0 at 400 and 600, then I don't even have the option of playing all regs. Sometimes there aren't even enough 100 tables to put in a proper session.
I am a fan of Cake for the past 2 years and the beta client is quite an upgrade, but the traffic especially at MSNL and PLO needs a boost!

^^ I'm not going to lie, that's me. I don't play poker for a living. I will give cake one more shot when the new software is available to me but if it's bad I'm done. It's just a shame to see all the wasted potential.

Although I would have loved to be a fly on the wall in the meeting where they decided to create a home for the old school, tin foil hat wearing, one tablers complete with software straight out of the 90's.

Give me something that's decent to look at (or I can make decent to look at), moves fast and get rid of the gimmicky BS and I'm there.

Lee,

I'd love to get a FLHE tournament with a guarantee, so that it actually runs. Can you make us one? Even a low budget affair, like a $10 w/ a $150 guarantee would be teh awesome.

Update on native Mac client?

I don't know what a several year-old fake screenshot from a different poker site has anything to do with this thread, but you should probably be banned before you continue to post.

Huh, how are you playing with ~Ice Water~ and ~Kobra Cai~ at the same time?

I don't obviously. You can change every seven days, whats funny is that if you drop a name anyone can pick it up.

Traffic complaints are legit, just saying that Cake is getting new affiliates to the site and that I have actually played different players on my 200 HU SNG games in the past two weeks.

PLO action is pretty much null and void at the moment, I will call a spade a spade, just saying that if guys want to stay on Cake bring up the good sometimes as well.

OK agreed a bit of a lame post for my first time out...but 7,387 posts...seriously!!

lol I didn't know that, ty
I just realised I have played both of your screennames and was wondering how you do that (as you have a good result in the rakerace I could not imagine that you're using 2 skins)

Cya at the tables.

Edit: and +1 on everything you are saying. I have being trying to do the same the last couple of weeks here

My first cash out at Cake was processed on 5-26, check arrived in the mail today. That is even with the US holiday weekend! Super fast and easy. Had to do the usual email of the photo ID and bank statement for verification which was really no problem. The cashier turned on my ability to request a check within 10 minutes of receiving my documents. For those of you worried about ease of cash out at Cake, my opinion based on this experience is don't.

I don't know when we'll have a native Mac client. For what it's worth, I now (firmly) believe one of two things to be true:

1. A relatively few years ago, when I said there was an insufficient market to justify the development/maintenance of a native Mac client, I was wrong, and/or

2. The marketplace has changed and the Mac market share now justifies that development/maintenance.

For better or worse, I don't have unilateral control over the software development people at Cake. And even if I did, I wouldn't tell them to drop whatever they're doing right now to build a native Mac client.

But the senior brass at Cake wants to have a Mac client and so do I. When we find the right place to put it in the priority queue, I'll definitely let you know.

Best regards,
Lee Jones

Cake Poker Cardroom Manager

I like being able to change at certain times. Rake Races I typically change to a brand new name to generate action or tend to do it when site traffic is slow. It's a nice perk that Cake offers to users, surprised most don't employ the name change option more.

Sometimes it gets tough to get action under my main SN so I go with another name for a week or two.

Whats your SN if you don't mind me asking. ~KobraCai~ is actually a guy that I stake and coach, he's getting to be a much more solid player as of late.