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12-08-2011 , 10:39 PM

#701

jazzyfresh45

grinder

Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 465

Quote:

Originally Posted by kingpin316

LOL GO to CAKE

Been there. Done that. No thanks.

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12-08-2011 , 10:43 PM

#702

kingpin316

journeyman

Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 253

Quote:

Originally Posted by jazzyfresh45

Maybe we can't change their minds. Maybe they will never make positive changes.

Maybe.

There are those out there who will accept the betrayal and the corruption and the sleazy dishonesty of a company they were loyal too. Those people will leave quietly without making a mess.

Then there are the fighters. The ones who refuse to go quietly. The ones that will make a mess. The ones that could hurt Bodog. The ones who will spread the truth. The ones who will continue to expose them to the world. The ones who will never give up.

The ones Bodog fears the most.

Walmart screws their employees and customers over Poland Springs screws over the people in the communities they get their water from the list goes on and on. So pick a more righteous cause than internet poker. Oh I know why you wont because sitting in a poker forum takes no effort at all and the other 2 do. Great choice by you. If I didnt want to play here anymore the first thing I would do is deposit somewhere else and forget Bodog ever existed.

12-08-2011 , 10:49 PM

#703

jazzyfresh45

grinder

Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 465

Quote:

Originally Posted by kingpin316

If I shopped at Walmart or drank Poland Springs you can be damn sure I would fight if they screwed me over. But I don't.

I did however play poker at Bodog for over 5 years and have been nothing but loyal to them with both my money and player referrals.

Sometimes you don't pick a cause. The cause picks you.

12-08-2011 , 10:58 PM

#704

kingpin316

journeyman

Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 253

Quote:

Originally Posted by jazzyfresh45

Maybe you have a point then because I never felt loyal to bodog they supplied the fish that made me money and they still do so nothing has changed as far as I am concerned.

12-08-2011 , 11:33 PM

#705

three_dee

adept

Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 841

Quote:

Originally Posted by CobaltBlue

Playing devil's advocate a bit here, but couldn't Bodog use this argument to justify their stance? "The idea that Bodog poker has to be identical to other online poker is silly. It's just a different experience and they are not meant to be the same."

Sure. And they're welcome to do that.

The experience being "different" is not the real reason people are flocking away in droves. Rush Poker was "different" but very popular.

The reason they're criticizing Bodog is not because the experience is "different", it's because it horribly sucks.

12-08-2011 , 11:49 PM

#706

three_dee

adept

Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 841

Quote:

Originally Posted by WiCane

I think that's an issue Bodog overlooked to be honest. Casual players (their clientele) are already leery about online poker, getting beat in ridiculous pots by "player 1" isn't going to ease their concerns.

This is a good point. Anonymous tables are a good way to increase the incidence of rig-tardation in the world.

Even if Bodog isn't actually doing anything scummy (who knows), people will be more likely to think they are.

12-08-2011 , 11:54 PM

#707

bs_jayhawk

old hand

Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 1,645

The absurdity of this thread is off the charts.

First the 2+2 herd protests Bodog's choice to make tables anonymous.

Then the 2+2 herd protests Bodog's inability to make tables anonymous.

I'm also having trouble understanding the logic of making this information public before discussing it with Bodog security in detail.

I'm mean cmon folks...you just released the information on a forum where HUD reliant grinders spend a majority of their free time. But hey no big deal, i'm sure they are all honest and ethical.

12-09-2011 , 12:02 AM

#708

anononon

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bs_jayhawk

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Full_disclosure

12-09-2011 , 12:04 AM

#709

so_low

grinder

Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 658

Quote:

Originally Posted by bs_jayhawk

The absurdity of this thread is off the charts.

First the 2+2 herd protests Bodog's choice to make tables anonymous.

Then the 2+2 herd protests Bodog's inability to make tables anonymous.

Jesus each post in this thread is stupider than the last. Obviously this person has never heard of "logic"

Can someone please PM me if kyleb does another round of testing or something. I am done with this thread - just a shill and 4 ******s babbling.

ob****usly bfinklestein and blainestar are exempt - they are gods.

12-09-2011 , 12:07 AM

#710

three_dee

adept

Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 841

Quote:

Originally Posted by bs_jayhawk

The absurdity of this thread is off the charts.

First the 2+2 herd protests Bodog's choice to make tables anonymous.

Then the 2+2 herd protests Bodog's inability to make tables anonymous.

No, the protest is about the fact that they have made the tables de-anonymized for a select few dishonest people who can exploit a bug. As opposed to just leaving it the way it was before, where everyone can see everyone's info and so all are on equal footing. Like any non-moronic poker site in the history of online poker.

12-09-2011 , 12:13 AM

#711

bs_jayhawk

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Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 1,645

Quote:

Originally Posted by kyleb

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Full_disclosure

thanks for the link but that doesn't explain why posting it here was a good idea or even logical...

what happens when bodog continues with its usual stance of not giving any amount of fks and nothing is patched? pretty sure your idealistic full disclosure security model kinda fails then...

12-09-2011 , 12:15 AM

#712

anononon

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what happens when bodog continues with its usual stance of not giving any amount of fks and nothing is patched?

Then you should stop playing there.

Where do you see my company distributing this application? It's better that everyone knows that this is a problem rather than the malicious hackers knowing it.

This, like every other rebuttal to your arguments, has been said in this thread repeatedly. You can find all the information you need in this thread.

12-09-2011 , 12:15 AM

#713

bs_jayhawk

old hand

Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 1,645

Quote:

Originally Posted by so_low

i have never seen so much ass kissed in one post

12-09-2011 , 12:20 AM

#714

bs_jayhawk

old hand

Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 1,645

Quote:

Originally Posted by kyleb

dude don't get me wrong i'm still going to steamroll noobs on bodog

honestly the only thing i'm really concerned about is lack of preferred seating

just seems like the only good that could come from posting this is the possibility that disclosing it may push bodog to patch it faster

but if it doesn't push Bodog to patch faster, disclosure is counterproductive

12-09-2011 , 12:21 AM

#715

kleinstein000

old hand

Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 1,339

Quote:

Originally Posted by kyleb

Ill start off by saying I really appreciate the work you put in to bring this security issue to light.

HOWEVER........................

You REALLY need to stop commenting about this topic seeing as how you and your company have decided to stop working on this topic.

12-09-2011 , 12:22 AM

#716

b finkelstein

banned

Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 667

oh boy another zombie rolls into this thread..... i am also done

p.s. so_low and blainestar are gods odv

~barry

12-09-2011 , 12:23 AM

#717

Lessu

Thailand Guru

Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,069

got an email back from bodog after closing my account. i guess you can reopen your closed account unlike some sites

also my name is not Patrick

Spoiler:

12-09-2011 , 12:23 AM

#718

anononon

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bs_jayhawk

but if it doesn't push Bodog to patch faster, disclosure is counterproductive

They claim they patched it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by kleinstein000

You REALLY need to stop commenting about this topic seeing as how you and your company have decided to stop working on this topic.

First of all, your logic makes no sense.

Secondly, when did I claim we stopped working on it?

12-09-2011 , 12:23 AM

#719

daveh07

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 3,950

PM me the program please if somebody has it to make the Bodog tables not anonymous. Worst decision ever for Bodog to go anonymous.

12-09-2011 , 12:24 AM

#720

anononon

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Quote:

Originally Posted by daveh07

PM me the program please if somebody has it to make the Bodog tables not anonymous. Worst decision ever for Bodog to go anonymous.

Nobody has the program in the videos but the executive team at my company, and we are not distributing it.

12-09-2011 , 12:27 AM

#721

bs_jayhawk

old hand

Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 1,645

Quote:

Originally Posted by kyleb

Nobody has the program in the videos but the executive team at my company, and we are not distributing it.

wow

yes

your company, and your company alone has the power to author such programs

excuse me while i gather the bits of my brains that you scattered against my wall

12-09-2011 , 12:29 AM

#722

kleinstein000

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Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 1,339

Quote:

Originally Posted by kyleb

They claim they patched it.

First of all, your logic makes no sense.

Secondly, when did I claim we stopped working on it?

You are right, you just said you were going to stop revealing your findings. So basically now any security feature they do fix noone will know about except what bodog tells us. Yet you keep implying that they shouldnt be trusted with what they say they fix.

Are you are going to keep saying they have security leaks while not detailing what they are? While Bodog says they fixed the ones you already detailed and you wont confirm that either?

12-09-2011 , 12:29 AM

#723

anononon

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We certainly agree others could make a similar program. But if he was asking about the program in the video, no one will release it to him.

If you have other simple questions, please read the rest of the thread.

12-09-2011 , 12:30 AM

#724

bs_jayhawk

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Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 1,645

Quote:

Originally Posted by kyleb

but you own a company

surely you have the answers

12-09-2011 , 12:30 AM

#725

anononon

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kleinstein000

I'm not implying they shouldn't be trusted. I'm saying you, as an individual consumer, should take all the evidence in this thread (and other resources), and make up your own mind.

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