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Old 03-20-2012, 04:22 AM   #201
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Now to move onto what we'd like to see for mtts and sngs. This can be ideas for new mtts/sngs, structure changes, changes to current mtts/sngs.. anything.

So far (what I've seen in thread+what I'd like)

- 4man hu sngs
- Synchronized breaks
- Making sure the mtt lobby updates faster
- Up starting stacks for mtts that start with 1500 chips (make at least 2000)
How about more regular sit n goes to many turbo and super turbo's not enough regular games meaning at least 7-10 minute blinds.
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Old 03-20-2012, 04:26 AM   #202
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Can you elaborate on this Devils? What software are people using to track their sessions?
I don't think there is anymore the only thing that tracks now is Holdem Indicator. That's only for the session I think that's what he meant.
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Old 03-20-2012, 04:27 AM   #203
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Also, is it legal? And how effective is it, like, when Player1 leaves the table and is replaced by a different Player1 does the software recognize this change and reset or do the stats get blended?
that's only on cash games not MTT's or STT's.
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Old 03-20-2012, 04:33 AM   #204
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put dons on your site with a 4% tourney fee like poker stars did and make a mac version available and I will move to your site yesterday (not literally if i had time travel capabilities id go back ten years and be a poker millionaire because they were all awful back then.) You get my point.
They do have DON's and beginner tourneys that are pretty much almost the same just a different payout structure. They also have the triple up games.
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Old 03-20-2012, 04:35 AM   #205
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Thanks Cobalt. I had since googled but still wanted to hear a review because considering Id be using HEM for any other site I played on its a lot to pay for session stats just on BD if it was highly flawed.
I use HI and I don't have any issues with it for what it does.

P.S. I don't know what happened but i had issues with multi-quote.
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Old 03-20-2012, 01:56 PM   #206
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Thanks Cobalt. I had since googled but still wanted to hear a review because considering Id be using HEM for any other site I played on its a lot to pay for session stats just on BD if it was highly flawed.
I mean, it is handy that it seems to provide most of what you'd want in a HUD. It also has a decent hand replayer...and is currently the only way to automatically grab hand histories off of the site (though they're not importable to HEM/PT as far as I can tell).
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Old 03-20-2012, 02:40 PM   #207
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yep, still anonymous. And yes there is a 3rd party software that tracks only session stats.
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I don't think there is anymore the only thing that tracks now is Holdem Indicator. That's only for the session I think that's what he meant.
I was referring to HI when I said 3rd party software.

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Really?

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Kinda wish Bodog_Ice would respond on the subjuect. I mean if it (HI) is going to be allowed going forward, I would think HEM/PT would offer the session only stats as well.
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Old 03-20-2012, 04:10 PM   #208
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I was referring to HI when I said 3rd party software.



Really?

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Kinda wish Bodog_Ice would respond on the subjuect. I mean if it (HI) is going to be allowed going forward, I would think HEM/PT would offer the session only stats as well.
I thought I had asked about it in the last email I sent, but I was mistaken. I'll be sure to find out soon.

Liking the mtt and sng ideas... Keep em coming. I'll leave that up until some time this weekend before moving on to the next part.
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Old 03-20-2012, 04:31 PM   #209
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Now to move onto what we'd like to see for mtts and sngs. This can be ideas for new mtts/sngs, structure changes, changes to current mtts/sngs.. anything.

So far (what I've seen in thread+what I'd like)

- 4man hu sngs
- Synchronized breaks
- Making sure the mtt lobby updates faster
- Up starting stacks for mtts that start with 1500 chips (make at least 2000)
Higher buy ins for every type of SNG or MTT, for those that want to play them.
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Old 03-20-2012, 05:27 PM   #210
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Re: *** Official Bodog Network Support Thread ***

would bodog be open to put where a player is from if you hover over them? it would give a since of security know that you're not sitting on a table with people all from the same city
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Old 03-20-2012, 05:53 PM   #211
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would bodog be open to put where a player is from if you hover over them? it would give a since of security know that you're not sitting on a table with people all from the same city
I hope not.
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Old 03-20-2012, 06:14 PM   #212
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Unless the T&C changed with the anonymous tables why wouldn't HI be allowed?
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Old 03-20-2012, 06:50 PM   #213
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Re: *** Official Bodog Network Support Thread ***

It still should be then. I have not checked out current tos but some players might want to find out if Bodog/Bovada are going to change them before they shell out $80 for HI. It is not out of the question that Bodog's intentions are not to allow any sort of hud but havent realized that tos do not reflect that.

If they are indeed allowed going forward, I would hope HM/PT would follow suit.
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Old 03-20-2012, 07:44 PM   #214
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It still should be then. I have not checked out current tos but some players might want to find out if Bodog/Bovada are going to change them before they shell out $80 for HI. It is not out of the question that Bodog's intentions are not to allow any sort of hud but havent realized that tos do not reflect that.

If they are indeed allowed going forward, I would hope HM/PT would follow suit.
I asked them specifically if Holdem Indicator was allowed. First they told me that no tracking software worked. Then I told them again that it has been verified that Holdem Indicator works and has worked the whole time. This is the reply they sent:


Dear Adam,

Thanks for contacting Bovada Poker Customer Service.

We do appreciate you taking the time to contact us regarding our Policies and would be more than happy to assist you.

The use of third party software on our site is not permitted. This has been outline in our 'Terms of Service' in the' Help Section' of the web site in the 'General Tab' under the heading 'Terms of Service' section 14- 14.3.

This section states: "14.3. You may not: (a) use robot software, EPAs or any other program designed to simulate game play or to give you or allow you to gain an unfair advantage over other players. We will take any measures necessary to ensure that any such software or programs are detected; (b) attempt to discuss any aspect of a hand during the playing of a Game; (c) trade any information about any cards handed to you during a Game; or (d) in any way engage in any syndicated play or otherwise collude with other players of Games on the Website."

For more information on our 'Terms of Service' please view link below:

http://www.bovada.lv/help/terms-service

Our Poker Customer Service Team is available by phone and e-mail at poker@bovada.lv 24/7 to help if you need anything else.

Thanks,
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Old 03-20-2012, 07:59 PM   #215
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Re: *** Official Bodog Network Support Thread ***

Yea looks like they didnt address that at all and afaik that is the same wording used in orig tos which allowed pt3/hem. Hopefully Bodog_Ice can further clarify (when he hears back).

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Old 03-20-2012, 08:11 PM   #216
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would bodog be open to put where a player is from if you hover over them? it would give a since of security know that you're not sitting on a table with people all from the same city
Player pools are too small to maintain anonymity if they did this.
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Old 03-20-2012, 10:31 PM   #217
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I was referring to HI when I said 3rd party software.



Really?

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Kinda wish Bodog_Ice would respond on the subjuect. I mean if it (HI) is going to be allowed going forward, I would think HEM/PT would offer the session only stats as well.
HI did an update specifically for Bodg(vada) I don't think anyone else has or even tried.

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I asked them specifically if Holdem Indicator was allowed. First they told me that no tracking software worked. Then I told them again that it has been verified that Holdem Indicator works and has worked the whole time. This is the reply they sent:


Dear Adam,

Thanks for contacting Bovada Poker Customer Service.

We do appreciate you taking the time to contact us regarding our Policies and would be more than happy to assist you.

The use of third party software on our site is not permitted. This has been outline in our 'Terms of Service' in the' Help Section' of the web site in the 'General Tab' under the heading 'Terms of Service' section 14- 14.3.

This section states: "14.3. You may not: (a) use robot software, EPAs or any other program designed to simulate game play or to give you or allow you to gain an unfair advantage over other players. We will take any measures necessary to ensure that any such software or programs are detected; (b) attempt to discuss any aspect of a hand during the playing of a Game; (c) trade any information about any cards handed to you during a Game; or (d) in any way engage in any syndicated play or otherwise collude with other players of Games on the Website."

For more information on our 'Terms of Service' please view link below:

http://www.bovada.lv/help/terms-service

Our Poker Customer Service Team is available by phone and e-mail at poker@bovada.lv 24/7 to help if you need anything else.

Thanks,
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It seems they really don't care about security. I saw something that looked like collusion and I got the old we'll look into it.

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I thought I had asked about it in the last email I sent, but I was mistaken. I'll be sure to find out soon.

Liking the mtt and sng ideas... Keep em coming. I'll leave that up until some time this weekend before moving on to the next part.
Did u see my post about the STT's?

Multi-quote back on!!
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Old 03-21-2012, 01:10 AM   #218
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downloadable and importable hand histories should be the first thing after the bugs are fixed
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Old 03-21-2012, 09:37 AM   #219
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downloadable and importable hand histories should be the first thing after the bugs are fixed
This is something that will be implemented at some point, but I don't know when that will be.

And yes george, I saw your post and added it to my list.
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Not sure if it has been mentioned, but the in game alerts need to be fixed in a big way. They are simply not annoying enough. There should be multiple beeps before the time bank is even used, and then once clicked there should be at least one warning beep near the end of the time bank. Bodog is seriously missing out on lots of rake because players who multitable are timing out and not being dealt in because there are not enough beeps to alert us that we are short on time on a particular table. One single beep per street is not enough.
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Old 03-21-2012, 07:33 PM   #221
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It also pisses off the rec players who complain in chat about timing down. The hands per hour are noticeably lower than old Bodog or any other sites. If you play turbos, supers, or hypers; you sometimes post less than 1 bb per level (yes, I've had this happen before), which imo is absurd. Its a lose-lose situation, Bodog loses rake and 4 tablers lose hands.
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Old 03-21-2012, 07:53 PM   #222
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Ice,

Not sure if it has been mentioned, but the in game alerts need to be fixed in a big way. They are simply not annoying enough. There should be multiple beeps before the time bank is even used, and then once clicked there should be at least one warning beep near the end of the time bank. Bodog is seriously missing out on lots of rake because players who multitable are timing out and not being dealt in because there are not enough beeps to alert us that we are short on time on a particular table. One single beep per street is not enough.
More beeps?..?..?..?

*Not sure if serious?*
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Bodog has the nut low ammount of beeping in the industry, soo.....
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Old 03-21-2012, 08:34 PM   #224
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Higher buy ins for every type of SNG or MTT, for those that want to play them.
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Ice,

Not sure if it has been mentioned, but the in game alerts need to be fixed in a big way. They are simply not annoying enough. There should be multiple beeps before the time bank is even used, and then once clicked there should be at least one warning beep near the end of the time bank. Bodog is seriously missing out on lots of rake because players who multitable are timing out and not being dealt in because there are not enough beeps to alert us that we are short on time on a particular table. One single beep per street is not enough.
Noted

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