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There's a few sites out there with very low rake, but almost any site like this will have very little traffic, terrible software, cheating issues and who knows what else. WSEX and paynorake.com come to mind.

GL.

Referring to Betraiser, WSEX and PayNoRake as cheaters is way out of line. I have had no issues with any of these sites. Are you just a FT/Stars lover trying to steer people away from all other sites?

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10-03-2009 , 05:58 PM

#127

MostlyBS

adept

Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 886

does betraiser accept U.S. players?

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10-03-2009 , 06:02 PM

#128

JohnWilkes

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 4,013

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Originally Posted by MostlyBS

does betraiser accept U.S. players?

Yes

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10-03-2009 , 06:24 PM

#129

theskillzdatklls

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 4,916

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Originally Posted by GrindUnumb

I didn't refer to betraiser as cheating. Look at the numerous bot scandals at WSEX. That was the cheating thing I was referring to.

I'm all about low rake, I love it, so the more traffic low rake sites get the better as far as I care.

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10-03-2009 , 06:42 PM

#130

koxx

adept

Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 726

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Originally Posted by theskillzdatklls

Next time check before you write anything. Both WSEX and paynorake.com have the standard 5% up to $3 rake structure. I don't care if i can get "up to 100%" of this back, the rake itself is on average.

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10-03-2009 , 07:26 PM

#131

Player_AM

stranger

Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 5

any one elso got problems loggin in right now?

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10-03-2009 , 07:45 PM

#132

VinceS

journeyman

Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 341

Well it's a decent site for people who want to play micro stakes

Just 1,2,5,10euro sngs/mtts at the moment which is awfully low

entered a 10euro sng yesterday for 3 hours and no one else even sat down

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10-03-2009 , 08:19 PM

#133

jukofyork

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 11,749

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Originally Posted by theskillzdatklls

I didn't refer to betraiser as cheating. Look at the numerous bot scandals at WSEX. That was the cheating thing I was referring to.

I think at least some of the WSEX bot scandal (ie: the HU bots) is actually just a product of the 100% rake-back and would prolly happen to any site offering a very high RB percentage... Basically, a pseudo-optimal HU bot won't have a massive edge and the high rake will likely kill most of it's profits at lower limits (good human HU players counter this by being better exploiters of weak players) whereas without rake any mistakes made against it's optimal/defensive strategy translate directly into winnings.

Juk

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10-03-2009 , 11:50 PM

#134

theskillzdatklls

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 4,916

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Originally Posted by koxx

maybe you should check what I wrote? i said very low rake i never said rake free. why you would possibly care if you instantaneously have a lower rake rate at say 1.5% or pay 5% and a few days later get the money via a rakeback payment is also beyond me. the way rake works, in general, is there is the industry standard 5% $3 and this is mitigated by rakeback. the only one site that I know about charges something similar to what you are talking about is this one that does 2.5% but thats open to some Scandinavians only. also, you are a douchebag and you should stop posting.

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10-04-2009 , 05:15 AM

#135

MostlyBS

adept

Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 886

Does betraiser allow player to player money transfer?

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10-04-2009 , 08:08 AM

#136

JohnWilkes

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 4,013

Their traffic seems to be improving.

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10-04-2009 , 11:27 AM

#137

mikes007

Shanooballa 2011

Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,859

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Originally Posted by JohnWilkes

Their traffic seems to be improving.

Their traffic in the MTT E50 freerolls is certainly improving. I think it is because they changed the rule limiting the number of those whch you can play. But I still see very little ring game traffic.

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10-04-2009 , 12:29 PM

#138

Quintin Riis

enthusiast

Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 80

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Originally Posted by bamsky

Is the site a scam or something? How can it be rake free?

Float.

(and a 10% fee I guess, just read rest of thread)

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10-05-2009 , 03:18 AM

#139

pokermonster29

banned

Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 334

Hey how are usa players allowed??

I just signed up .. activaction codes went smooth.

Then i tried depositing with my Mastercard and said was not allowed since moneybookers does not take deposits from my country/ usa.

So anybody from usa found a way to deposit.. if so pm me real quick ok!!

mike

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10-05-2009 , 03:24 AM

#140

pokermonster29

banned

Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 334

Traffic is low but everybody needs to do their part to support ANY lower cost sites that emerge.

Over time rates would get lower and lower due to support of lower cost sites.

Will take years but has to start somewhere!! right?

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10-05-2009 , 03:47 AM

#141

Berlino

old hand

Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 1,203

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Originally Posted by breakevenpro

they are using the same master license as eurolinx
just sayin

Yeah, the whole license/sub-license system in the Netherlands Antilles is a mess.

Aces Gold, a Sportsbook that went under years ago had a sub-license, but after the fact the governement claimed they weren't even aware that Aces Gold was doing business there.

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10-05-2009 , 10:18 AM

#142

jukofyork

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 11,749

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Originally Posted by pokermonster29

One thing they could do that would help me (and a lot of others) decide is to let me see the lobby and tables without signing up... I don't want to sign up just to see the lobby only to end up bitterly regretting it a couple of years down the line when I can't get rake-back, etc.

Juk

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10-05-2009 , 03:44 PM

#143

conoco

newbie

Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 15

Where an operator is licensed these days hardly matters anymore. Many of some you never would have thought declared bankrupcy in malta. The traffic at pokerroom is ok and with lots of newbies on the tables the freeroll can be profitable...

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10-05-2009 , 03:50 PM

#144

pokermonster29

banned

Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 334

Whats the point of taking usa players if i can't deposit with my Mastercard.

Any usa players depositing somehow?

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10-05-2009 , 09:22 PM

#145

GrindUnumb

old hand

Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,359

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Originally Posted by pokermonster29

That is because Moneybookers cannot do any non-US transactions. I used Click2pay to deposit to mine. They did not even charge me a fee to change USD to Euros. Sorry I don't know what other methods work for US players.

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10-05-2009 , 09:25 PM

#146

GrindUnumb

old hand

Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,359

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Originally Posted by jukofyork

This I can understand. Half do, half don't. I recall being mad TruePoker had same issue

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10-05-2009 , 10:04 PM

#147

AAGRESSOR

newbie

Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 15

Anyone notice any strange **** in the 50 freerolls here.I eventually went bust with tenner won from sit n go freeroll then i notice all the 50 freerolls seem to be full or nearly full instead of the usual 25 to 70 players.I just finished playing 1 was on a table with 8 players that were being blinded down and what seemed to be a bot.

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10-06-2009 , 09:40 AM

#148

leogirl

stranger

Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 6

I'd like to see that too!

Last edited by leogirl; 10-06-2009 at 09:41 AM. Reason: wrong area

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10-06-2009 , 09:44 AM

#149

leogirl

stranger

Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 6

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Originally Posted by jukofyork

I'd like to see that too!

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10-06-2009 , 11:32 AM

#150

VinceS

journeyman

Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 341

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Originally Posted by AAGRESSOR

They changed the 50e freerolls so that you no longer need a ticket to enter. That's why they are mostly full now...

Atleast 5+ people on each table in them seem to be afk.

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