Wow.. so they believe there's a real threat at least.

Now to just find out where it's coming from: no word on that? It doesn't really matter all that much as long as your account is safe i guess. Good thing you contacted em. Could try find out if it's indeed BOL employees, but i doubt you'll ever know for sure.

Betonline has been known to be a reputable company for over ten years and players have got paid and the poker is just a side business to them and as they are used to taking bets on phone the passwords are asked that way. And to the one who had his ex-Moneybookers account "logged," such things never have anything to do with recent happenings but always happen by chance only, while the customer support at the old Moneybookers, I would be highly surprised if you get the thing to any logical level before two months and even then they can't help you. The cashout problems have always been about the lack of money (or the US-players) of the smaller sites and is standard, nothing to worry about, though I wouldn't put too much money in at those times.

if it hurts you that much to do a simple countermeasure to throw off an attempt of id and money theft, i guess you just don't value money as much as most people here

What amazes me about this post is not the level of confidence in a company that is known to accuse innocent people who have won too much of cheating and rob their accounts, while bashing a much better known and more trusted financial service that is based in London, UK, as opposed to Nowhere, Latin America. It is the fact that you knowingly choose to give action to a poker room that obviously cannot cover the players' balances and slow pays players while there are solvent rooms that pay out in a few days time out there, even for American players

Since you don't know my situation and haven't bothered to ask, perhaps you could answer a few questions before assuming I don't value money...

How am I suppose to receive my money from FTP if my new email address no longer matches theirs? (and I've never deposited on FTP other than through MB) I've also been waiting for a pending withdrawal from WSEX (worldsportsexchange) which I'm likely to never see but again if I change my email address on MB I will definately never be paid by them. How do you propose I change my email address with either of these 2 rogue sites?

What I have done is changed my password on MB to something very complex and which only I know (which it already was complex and unique which is why they weren't successful in their failed attempt at logging into my acct) and I've withdrawn funds from MB which will now leave my account much less vulnerable.

lol reggie bush itt....i wondered where he had been working at lately

you can inform FTP or WSEX that you changed your MB address (which they can confirm with MB staff easily). as for your password, I hope you changed it on another computer. if betonline is truly responsible for this, it would be easy for them to sneak in a keylogger in their client and sniff your new password, with which a scammer could possibly draw funds from your credit card or bank account you're using to withdraw from moneybookers.

I can likely do as you've suggested when FTP reopens, but WSEX doesn't reply to emails and is impossible to contact through any other means (which I gave up on trying anymore). Honestly, I'm not sure how they are even allowed to keep their site operating. But even though its money I will likely never see again, its difficult for me to just abandon 1.4K on the off chance it does show up in my MB account one day.

Thank you for suggesting I use a different computer to change my password. I did in fact use the same computer so I will once again change my password today using a different one. Also, I've doubted it was someone at BOL that attempted to log into my account but thought it seemed coincidental that I had just recently joined their site. Since nobody else here has posted a similar failed login attempt, I'm now even more doubtful it was BOL. I also haven't asked MB for the IP address of who actually did try logging into my acct because it makes no sense to me that they would ever give out this information to anyone for any reason, unless they were legally obligated to of course.

MB offers security tokens.

No it wouldn't. Just use a separate email with a password generator generated 16-characters long password stored on a memory stick for moneybookers only, man.

Thats how I do it and never ever have lost a cent in my life in the internez.


EDIT: Nevermind. You still would have to change the emails of the pokersites to match the cashouts....

give them money back?
lol
its monopoly money
let see them get a cash out
ROFL

bol is just a big scam!

Betonline is a sportsbetting site. It shouldn't be a surprise they ask for your pw in chat, a bunch of reputable sportsbetting sites do this, including 5dimes.

why in the flying **** does it matter what the site offers in regards to employees (very low level ones i might add) knowing players pw/logins? are u seriously trying to imply that any site operating under these conditions isnt a massive liability to play/bet on simply because 5dimes, a site YOU think and heard is reputable, does the same?

In all fairness, there is no mass of 5D players claiming to be hacked here or on other forums. Not saying that I don't feel uneasy giving my pw to 5d support, just that it appears one site is able to protect it's players balances from employees and one isn't.

some contacts from BLO workers

Luis Poveda - AM - skype: affiliatesmart

worth a try at least

Is't there any fees withdrawal from Betonline?

Cashout fees are about 100%

Take your head out of your ass, you seemed to be under the impression "those shady bol people" were the only ones who partook in this nefarious activity, I simply pointed out that wasn't the case and that it was standard procedure for a lot of sportsbetting sites, of which betonline ultimately is. Nowhere did I imply I agree with this but you coming to the forums and acting like it's some groundbreaking information is lol. It may very well be to random poker people depositing on sportsbetting sites, but most sportsbettors are aware of this, and take it into consideration when deciding to deposit there or not. Ultimately it's up to you to do your homework on the site you play on.

And 5dimes is reputable and has stood among the industry leaders for a long time (you insinuating they are not because of the pw issue is again laughable), I just used them as an example it's not just them who do this...

What? My head is up my ass in regards to?

I posted this thread to warn ppl 1.) Bol knows player pw/login AND 2.) myself and others were hacked because of that... How this isn't important info people should know about regarding a site that offers poker games, in the Internet poker section of a poker forum, I dont know.

Well how do you think your post reads? You say nothing about it being a problem or your opinion. So I was left to interpret wtf your point was. When your only ****ing point is "other sports betting sites do this too" you shouldn't murky it up with telling ppl how unsurprised they should be and how reputable another site is who does this. It reads like youre implying something (such as: this is infact ok [because 5dimes does it and they're reputable]).

Freaking site moves me from one big blind into another when there are few tables breaks and they don't see a problem with this in tourney play.

Ive heard other players keep saying site uses its own bots no evidence other then players talking. They do know your password I forgot mine got on live chat and support gave it to me in live chat, lol.

How do they not have money they don't give anything back in terms of rakeback? They have tons of rebuy tournaments where players have to pay vig for each and every add on and rebuy. IMO they just greedy. Ring games are painstakingly slow they don't show hands per hour and with good reason as it seemes to take longer to play a hand online there then at live casino.

sorry guys for the long absence, basically i wasn't paid by bol in the end, i didnt want to deal with it anymore since it just wasnt worth my time and energy i had a much better summer partyingnanyway, i also managed to do some work in singapore, overall it was a significantly better experience than continuing to dwell on these losers. Poker in general just reminded me too much of BOL to find it entertaining for the last few months hence why I stopped playing and stopped visiting the forum etc... In any case, good lessons were learnt from a real ****ty experience, sometimes its better to just cut your losses and move on. Wish all of you the best,
Darius

I guess SBR can't be trusted either, they give BetOnline a B+ rating.

I had a good laugh reading this from SBR's site review of BOL:



It seems SBR is a joke too.

This is serious. They know their player's passwords? How true is this?

Very true. I set up an account a while back and got a phone call instantly. He said he was making sure deposit went through and walking me through it (which I didn't need help with) and read back my login and password to "confirm" it with me. Since I was already in process of making a deposit I just made it min.& didn't stick around there. I believe I still have a balance on there(a few dollars or so) but long ago deleted site and am not planning on going back especially after things I have read since then.