beat: dont understand much of this debt..

but motivation to learn "business" english...

So please some1 up a scan of this paper !


wind up company ?! = broke?! company?

particular..: should i write there that it is my money? that i deposit to play and not give them a sort of credit to make business with ??!

particular security held : same question as fayth!...

Does anyone have the battlefield installer? I had to reinstall Windows and now it's impossible to access my account. If anyone has it please let me know, thank you.

yay yet another form to fill out lol.

Wtf do you put under "Particulars of how debts arose"

Can someone scan what he filled out and post it here so we all do it the same way?

maybe something like

"deposited money with battlefield poker for them to hold in trust so I could play poker"

Then if you have more than you deposited you would need to add something about your winnings.

Guess you could try to claim owed rakeback there but somehow I don't think rakeback is going to count.

i dont think , that would also mean that you can claim losses !? in some extreme example -_-

Hey guys, a little confused. Where did you find form 535? Where does it say that we need to fill out form 535?

Did anyone else get an email at 11:30 pm tonight from Tusk? They gave me an entirely different form to fill out that does not resemble form 535 at all.

the email was NOT from tusk. It is from Simpartners. The form in the email is the same thing that is on their webpage and what is listed here. Not sure where the confusion is.

I don't think that is the case, cause if you lost Tusk isn't in debt to you.

The debt is refering to what Tusk owes you.

I am actually kind of suprised that skins EG battlefield aren't the creditors and it is battlefield that owes you the money, not Tusk.

Kind of like if a supermarket sells you a broken torch they give you a refund and then go get the money from the maker of the torch.

Or if you want to add a 3rd party payment system, you use you plastic to pay for it.

I would imagine if you didn't get your money back from Tusk there must be some action you could take against the skins.

Don't worry guys, I'm here to save you.

*** Proof of Debt Form***

This new form is the exact same form as some of you have filled out already (just in a different format). I'm going essentially off the information they give me so if you have already done this I would advise you to do it again using the form they have provided. I know this is repetitive, but like I said I'm taking things as they are given to us by the liquidator. This way you also have the "official" form provided by them in case they want to get technical (even though it's the same).

https://secure16.ozhosting.com/simsp...kCircular1.pdf

I'll go through each item and leave the obvious ones with no explanation.

"Name of creditor" - Full LEGAL name. I'd also make sure it's the same name associated with the account.

"Address" - Address associated with the account.

"Email address" - Make sure this is the address you want to receive notifications at. I say this because I have a separate email address for poker accounts and never check it.

"Telephone Number" - Include your area code and country area code.

"Total Amount of Claim as at Date of Members' Resolution to Wind-up Company" - All this means is how much money did you have online on the date Tusk decided to liquidate. I'd use March 6th, 2008 as the cut-off date since this is when the liquidator was appointed (even though operations had ceased before this date). The amount is going to be the same either way so write down the amount that was in there before Tusk shut down access to the various skins. They made this sound a lot more complicated than what it is.

"Particulars of how Debt(s) arose and Date(s) incurred (use space overleaf if necessary)" - This is essentially asking why Tusk owes you money. I'd keep the answer to this statement short and concise. For example, in my form I state:

"From the period of 10/4/06 - 3/6/08, several credits were made into my online poker account at www.(nameofpokersite).com in the amount of $X. Tusk Investment Corporation, acting as a payment processor and clearing house for the Microgaming Poker Network, held these funds in escrow on my behalf during this time. I have made a formal request for withdrawal of these funds and am yet to hear a response from anyone associated with Tusk Investment Corporation or the Microgaming Poker Network. In the event these funds are held in trust, I hereby declare this notice to be an official demand for all monetary amounts owed to me by Tusk Investment Corporation. Alternatively, I request an immediate accounting of Tusk's assets to determine if further legal action is warranted in this matter. Thank you for your co-operation."

"Particulars of any Security held" - This question only applies to secure creditors. It is basically asking if you have an asserted lien over the company's assets in the event of default. An example of this, purely to illustrate, would be a bank having a mortgage over a person's home. In the event you don't pay, then they can assert their lien and foreclose on your house. Since we are unsecured creditors, however, we don't have a security interest at stake. This is how I answered:

"None known at this time. In the event player funds are held in trust, please advise immediately so distribution may be made. I reserve the right to supplement this answer should further information become available."

"Value of security" - Once again, this is asking for the value of anything you have a lien asserted over (which in this case does not apply). This was my answer:

"In the event player funds are held in trust I hereby assert a secured claim of ($ amount you are owed). I reserve the right to supplement this answer should further information become available."

The next section only applies if you have been paid anything (as of March 6, 2008) from Tusk. I don't know a single person that has though so I would leave this section blank. If you have been paid, fill out the information accordingly.

You will also need to submit as much proof as possible with the claim form. The more proof you have, the better it will be. I hope this helped.

Thank you this is very useful

I have neither a printer or a scanner... I filled in the form using text layer in Photoshop. Used pencil tool for signature which was kind of hard but finally I managed to get a result that looked somewhat like my IRL signature.

Thank you again Zep for all your help. Its pretty sad that Microgaming, nor any of the skin owners chimed in on how to fill out these forms, when they easily could have helped out in this regard.

Thank you very much Zep.

Do you think that we should fill out both the form sent to our emails and form 535 or is just the one sufficient?

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THX ZAP AGAIN

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(THAT WASN CAPSLOCK EVERYTHING WRITTEN BY HOLDING RIGHT SHIFT!)

You'll get a word format here

http://www.4shared.com/file/43412449...Circular1.html

This tool converts the files http://www.investintech.com/prod_downloadsa2d_pro.htm

I used neteller for depositing and withdrawing if you ask they send you pdf files of all the transactions just some proof of money going between you and them tusk were known as WWW .PURCHASE-ON-NET.COM for all of my transactions for me.

Am i suppose to send these forms in as an email or as regular mail?

i used this software (crack is included) to edit the pdf document:
http://************.org/tor/4039200/...itor_v2.0.1011
Worked ok.

I put it into word and put all my details on plus i added screen shots of my accout my transaction history with neteller and got it all the right size and looking good put it in the space provided then i went to https://createpdf.adobe.com/ you get 5 free tries you just convert the whole thing and they email it to you i got it the way i want on the 3rd try now iam going to send it.

I have a problem that I guess at least some other share with me. I tried to withdraw they day before it all happended so my money ended up as a "pending withdrawal" with my account balance being zero. Now my account balance is still zero but the pending withdrawal is gone as well.

This means that I don't know exactly how much I am owed. I know it's between $3400-$3500. Should I put in the form $3400-$3500 or $3400 or maybe $3450?

It's also a problem that I can't prove that they owe my this amount since the money seems to be lost in cyberspace.

In the form it says "Please attach any documentary evidence of clalm". Do you guys attach screenshots (in my situation obv not possible) or what are we supposed to attach?

Would it be alright to print the form, fill it out by hand and the scan and email it along with a picture of my balance screenshot?

And would you also suggest I send a hard copy by snail mail as well?

I haven't really followed this thing as close as i probably should have, but don't they have some sort of records regarding requested withdrawals?

Its gonna be a bit difficult to prove anything if they don't, seeing how the best thing one can come up with is a screenshot or smthing... which doesnt really prove anything ;(

btw
I am in the EXACT same spot as you, with the only difference that i know the exact amount i requested and i also wrote down some 7 digit transaction number.

My concern is that it is TUSK that probably has that record. I don't know how well the cooporate with the liqidators but I don't really expect anything from them. Good thing you mentioned the transaction number, I have that as well.

I haven't posted for a long time but feel I should since the latest developments have come to light.

The site owners (we had the CPTGaming skin) have had as much information as the players in the recent weeks, although we were informed slightly earlier about the appointment of the liquidators.

It doesn't look very good for any of the parties concerned at this point. We were fortunate enough to only have had a small following in comparison to the other sites when everything went down. At the moment we are in contact with our players and will be recovering the players losses ourselves (again this isn't a massive amount but still significant) at our own cost, if they get any form of money back from their own accounts then that will cover the the hassle involved of having it tied up for so long.

We are still owed a few thousand and have lost the $25,000 set up fee for less than a years usage. We are trying to salvage what we can but it looks unlikely that there is going to be any form of ideal resolution here.

I feel extremely disappointed with MGS that they let such a shoddy outfit run what is in essence a company that was the 'middleman' for smaller poker solutions. We approached MGS about a poker solution last year and they in turn passed us onto MPP (TUSK's poker arm).

In the unlikely event that we here anything new I will endevour to pass this information on.

Also for anyplayers still struggling to find out their exact fianancial position you should contact the skin you used as the back office system still works so they should be able to provide you with this. They should also be able to provide you with the installer software.

I will not in light of this situation now be recommending MGS poker rooms to out live tour players and will not use MGS powered sites banners on any of our poker sites.

Sounds grim, but pretty damn honest.