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03-13-2008 , 11:30 AM
shooooooooooooooooooooocker no new news
03-13-2008 , 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by fmohasse Battlefield Poker and 27 other Microgaming skins to close?
i was looking for one and it is really hard to trust a lawyer that does not even have a website.


lol, I would say the vast majority of lawyers don't have websites. I do not think any in Canada are even allowed. You may find a listing on a website of the many lawyers in a region and how to contact them, but that's about it.
03-13-2008 , 01:11 PM
Has anybody read the terms and coditions that you must agree to when you deposit or withdraw?
03-13-2008 , 01:29 PM
Here are the terms and conditions (from Arctic Poker - probably the same across all Tusk sites). There's really nothing in here that I see that affects us positively or negatively, with the exception of the indemnification which appears to preclude us from suing for loss of use - in other words, if our money is tied up for months we can't say that we are owed extra money because we could have been earning interest on that money, or that we were damaged financially by not having access to that money.

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03-13-2008 , 02:25 PM
cliff notes?
03-13-2008 , 04:24 PM
http://www.online-casinos.com/news/news6324.asp

I found this post on APCW forum:

"Definitely buyer beware, i have three (or is it two?) words: off-shore business.

You have no rights or protections in a case like this.

Microgaming has nothing to do with their money or the fact that Tusk went down the tubes. Microgaming just hosts the software for the operators much like Merge hosts Walker, Nordica and Reefer. In the past, some networks have paid out account balances in similar situations as an act of good faith but they are not legally bound to do this.

The lesson we all need to take from this is: No matter how well respected the network is, be selective about which brands you choose to trust with your money. Merge is currently hosting several sites from the former DGS Network. So, while I love Merge's software and Carbon Poker in particular, I wouldn't trust any of those ex DGS rooms with one dime of my money. Do your homework - play at the bigger more established sites."

"The Kahnawake are where 440 gaming sites have been licensed quickly and easily by paying $20,000 a year. They are an interesting bunch of easily offended people who, in my opinion, are here to make their money and could care less about true integrity.

When I invited the Kahnawake on to our show to talk about Absolute they refused, telling me that the APCW was an "unsavorry commercial undertaking". Right..."

Yes, the APCW is a commercial undertaking. They have 440 clients at $20k/year and pocket almost 9million bucks but we're an unsavvory commercial undertaking. Please.

Suffice it to say, I have notified the Interactive Gaming Council of my dissatisfaction with both Full Tilt Poker and the Kahnawake. The more I discover, the more shady everything seems. Especially after reading their final report on the Absolute Poker scandal; it's available on their website under News.

Their ruling does nothing to benefit the players; all AP had to do was pay a fine TO THE COMMISSION, pay the costs of THE COMMISSION, put a deposit WITH THE COMMISSION. Very little mention is made of what protections are afforded the PLAYERS.


http://youtube.com/watch?v=l4gd-W-cXMU

http://youtube.com/watch?v=QJ2oWsjeJKI
03-13-2008 , 04:27 PM
Cliffnotes are on the top of the post of MLSchaff

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Here are the terms and conditions (from Arctic Poker - probably the same across all Tusk sites). There's really nothing in here that I see that affects us positively or negatively, with the exception of the indemnification which appears to preclude us from suing for loss of use - in other words, if our money is tied up for months we can't say that we are owed extra money because we could have been earning interest on that money, or that we were damaged financially by not having access to that money.
funny people find it to much to read when it's important and they have so much money involved...
03-14-2008 , 05:19 AM
Any news ?

Has anyone found out who the liquidators are yet ?

Anyone been contacted by their skin / affiliate ?

I would be very hesitant of putting any money on Microgaming atm.

The silence surronding this is deafening.
03-14-2008 , 06:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Robin_Ripper Battlefield Poker and 27 other Microgaming skins to close?
funny people find it to much to read when it's important and they have so much money involved...
wtf i'm I supposed to do??? Dont even think about using the word ''funny'' in context of this thread ANYMORE...

Yes, i got money on RedNines.com and know what? I could nearly pay my rent last month (i know its stupid, but its too late for that as well, ISNT IT????). Dont need ur comments. Keep ur non-information with u plz.....

Last edited by Mike Haven; 03-14-2008 at 11:06 AM.
03-14-2008 , 07:07 AM
Dude, I'm in the same spot as you. No point in flaming other members. I also have 20K locked up at rednines so don't start talking bs.

If you're going to kill someone please make sure it's someone from microgaming who are responsible... jeez..
03-14-2008 , 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Robin_Ripper Battlefield Poker and 27 other Microgaming skins to close?
Dude, I'm in the same spot as you. No point in flaming other members. I also have 20K locked up at rednines so don't start talking bs.

If you're going to kill someone please make sure it's yourself
FYP
03-14-2008 , 08:30 AM
Yes your situation sucks. Yes it is horrible. However, you need to place your anger properly. Letting it out against innocent posters is unacceptable.

Last edited by Mike Haven; 03-14-2008 at 11:07 AM.
03-14-2008 , 09:13 AM
rly cranky this morning obv, am kinda shocked to read it back, lol. I didnt check for some time and still nothing happened this morning.... I wont kill anyone.... and apologize for my language....

Last edited by Mike Haven; 03-14-2008 at 11:08 AM.
03-14-2008 , 09:44 AM
If this thread has taught me anything its the old expression:
Don't put all your eggs in one basket.

hell even if you played on one of the larger sites like pokerstars / party / Full tilt its probably a good idea to have a healthy portion of your BR offline or split up between various sites.

Hope you guys get your money back, this is scary stuff.
03-14-2008 , 02:57 PM
Where have the skin reps gone? The continue to say that they're "working hard" on the issue, but nothing has come from it. How is that possible?

I would like at least one of the skin representatives to reveal ONE thing that their "hard work" has uncovered in this whole situation. What does hard work include exactly?
03-14-2008 , 03:10 PM
try private msgn ur one
03-14-2008 , 03:22 PM
Why? They should post their results here ... I think everyone want to know what they have done so far... I at least do.
BTW: I just cant put it in words how much this ****ing **** is ****ing up on me... its so crazy two weeks that they close it and absolutely NOTHING right now... hope MicroGaming dies after I got my money back!
03-14-2008 , 04:33 PM
If depositors money was safe we would have heard about it before now.
03-14-2008 , 06:12 PM
if you deposited with a debit or credit card would it be possible to charge back your deposit amount?
03-14-2008 , 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by TMcStacks Battlefield Poker and 27 other Microgaming skins to close?
Where have the skin reps gone? The continue to say that they're "working hard" on the issue, but nothing has come from it. How is that possible?

I would like at least one of the skin representatives to reveal ONE thing that their "hard work" has uncovered in this whole situation. What does hard work include exactly?
I have a friend who knows one of the skin owners so when I get in contact with my friend I'm usually ask him if he had heard any news from his friend - the skin owner. Last time I asked my friend he said that he hasn't spoke to the skin owner lately because that guy is two busy nowdays with... playing poker!
03-14-2008 , 08:49 PM
I think that anything short of hiring a lawyer and going against microgaming headsup is just a waste of time. Sit back, relax... It's not going to do any good sitting down at tables and chatting with the pokermanager in public, it's not going to do any good whining at the skinowners etc. If they get any information that we should know about, I'm positive they will post it here as soon as they know about it. It's not like microgaming or tusk or whoever will think "ohh, it seems like nobody cares about the money, so we just take it for ourselves". If Microgaming gets word from the liquidator and doesn't act on it, then there might be a point in attacking them and make them understand that they just can't avoid us.
just my twentythree cents.
03-14-2008 , 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by TMcStacks Battlefield Poker and 27 other Microgaming skins to close?
Where have the skin reps gone? The continue to say that they're "working hard" on the issue, but nothing has come from it. How is that possible?

I would like at least one of the skin representatives to reveal ONE thing that their "hard work" has uncovered in this whole situation. What does hard work include exactly?
Their hard work ahs uncovered the fact that MGS and Tusk aren't saying anything, what more can you ask of them? They're skin owners, they rely on the information given to them from MGS and Tusk, so far there has been sfa info so what else are they supposed to be doing?

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Originally Posted by HarriSeldon Battlefield Poker and 27 other Microgaming skins to close?
I have a friend who knows one of the skin owners so when I get in contact with my friend I'm usually ask him if he had heard any news from his friend - the skin owner. Last time I asked my friend he said that he hasn't spoke to the skin owner lately because that guy is two busy nowdays with... playing poker!
And...? What should they be doing instead? Ringing MGS/Tusk every 15 minutes to have "We've a gag order and can't say anything" every time?
03-15-2008 , 01:40 AM
While I understand why a 'Rep' hasn't offered up any information on this I am surprised that someone "in the know" (Like a laid off employee) hasn't created a new 2+2 account & shared what they do know. There has to be plenty of information changing hands internally that would be nice to hear. We would still have to strain the information separating the gossip but it would be interesting none the less.

Sorry to hear this happening to so many of you.

      
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