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01-07-2023 , 07:45 PM
Create account last night and deposit 25000 USDT via my crypto wallet. Played and had an ending balance of around 36000 today. Try and login and says account suspended. I send them all verification materials but apparently i had entered some random info when signing up. They said the information does not match and seized all the money just like that which was shocking to me. I asked if why they can't just refund back to the wallet i deposited and they wont respond to anything. Feels like it is pure theft do not recommend anyone play there unless they can actually rectify the situation. Anyone else here have a similar experience? Also if anyone has any contact info i have already reached out the CEO PHIL NAGY and waiting on a response. REALLY SCARY honestly never had someone literally just steal money when i did nothing wrong.
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01-07-2023 , 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by ap1580
Create account last night and deposit 25000 USDT via my crypto wallet. Played and had an ending balance of around 36000 today. Try and login and says account suspended. I send them all verification materials but apparently i had entered some random info when signing up. They said the information does not match and seized all the money just like that which was shocking to me. I asked if why they can't just refund back to the wallet i deposited and they wont respond to anything. Feels like it is pure theft do not recommend anyone play there unless they can actually rectify the situation. Anyone else here have a similar experience? Also if anyone has any contact info i have already reached out the CEO PHIL NAGY and waiting on a response. REALLY SCARY honestly never had someone literally just steal money when i did nothing wrong.
lol at entering random info then deposit $25K

To be honest I don't want ACR to send $36K if the info do not match.
If this is a honest mistake they will figure it out.
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01-07-2023 , 08:07 PM
i didnt know it matter as i used crypto to deposit.. but then i send in all my documents real id etc.. and they said sorry account close all funds seized.. you think that is ok?

Why cant they just send back to the depositing wallet ? How can they just steal all the money?

Scary they can just send an email and say sorry account closed and steal the money.. surprised anyone would put money on there honestly after hearing something like this.. anyways they said the funds are gone but trying to escalate further..

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Originally Posted by Arnakk2424
lol at entering random info then deposit $25K

To be honest I don't want ACR to send $36K if the info do not match.
If this is a honest mistake they will figure it out.
Info dont match what i deposit via crypto its not lke its a bank.. it completely anon .. i want them to send the MONEY back to the same WALLET that deposited.. why would they not do that? just takign the money is pure theft

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01-07-2023 , 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by ap1580
Info dont match what i deposit via crypto its not lke its a bank.. it completely anon .. i want them to send the MONEY back to the same WALLET that deposited.. why would they not do that? just takign the money is pure theft
They have to check things.
I can open a ACR account and call myself Bugs Bunny at 123 nostreet and because I use crypto they should send money anyway without confirmation ?

You just sound you tried to do something wierd and get caught.
What info do not match, you moved and address to not match ? You entered the wrong birthday ? You used somebody else name ?
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01-07-2023 , 08:27 PM
no i didnt do anythign weird.. i used AUTOFILL and some of the info was wrong.. they took my deposit.. and then they said doesn't match sorry all your funds are ours NOW.. i aksed them to refund the funds back to the SAME WALLET.. so there cannot be any issue so what you are saying make no sense..

Crazy you agree they cant just take someone funds you would think they refund back to the original deposit method?

address was off only the city .. and cuz of that they seized 36k 10 hours after i deposited..

they are escalating again.. not sure what that means.. but maybe they fix and refund .. i hope they are good people and not thieves..

still nothing.. was able to contact PHIL NAGY and he said funds should never be taken like that.. but stil havent gotten any money back and noone responding.. will update tomorrow .. hopefully the site is not a complete scam

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01-08-2023 , 01:30 AM
Acr is not a money laundering site.. your sound completely shady.. if you can write English you should read their terms and conditions.

Everything you have said so far and your logic about anonymity and all sounds shady as fek... Every dollar of yours should be confiscated for acting stupid and just thinking that your entitled for them to do as you please...

Just cuz the money came out of that wallet doesn't mean anything !!!!!


It's like oh yea I got caught please undo my mistake by just sending money back !

Just stop defending your dumb mistake and why are you on two plus with a new id???
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01-08-2023 , 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by ap1580
... and they said sorry account close all funds seized.. you think that is ok?

... Scary they can just send an email and say sorry account closed and steal the money ...

just takign the money is pure theft
Obviously it's not theft, at all. See their Terms and Conditions:

1.1 Creating Your Account: To use the services, You first will need to create an account with ACR. In creation of Your Account, You will be asked to provide such personal information as ACR may require to know its customers, including, but not limited to Your first and last name, address, a valid email address to which You have access, Your birth date, and a valid telephone number. You shall ensure and are obligated to provide accurate and truthful information in creating Your account and shall keep such Account information current.

3.6 By accepting our Terms and conditions you also accept our Security and Game integrity policies which include clear guidelines of the acceptable and forbidden ways to conduct in our tables, penalties, and refund policies.

12. GOVERNING LAW: The Agreement and any matters relating hereto shall be governed by, and construed in accordance with the laws of Costa Rica. Each party irrevocably agrees that the relevant courts of Costa Rica shall have exclusive jurisdiction in relation to any claim, dispute or difference between them concerning the Agreement and any matter arising hereunder.

Security and Game Integrity Policy

1.3 WPN Decisions are final: By accepting our general terms and conditions you also accept that our Security and Game Integrity team investigation results, outcomes and penalties are final. You expressly agree and accept WPN alone to deem any account in violation of any of the present policies, and therefore you accept any such determination as final.

1.5 Penalties:

You accept and expressly acknowledge and agree that any penalty decision or determination lies within WPN’s sole and absolute discretion.

1.5.8 Permanent ban and confiscation of funds: This penalty describes a permanent loss of access to the player account and any funds held within WPN. This penalty shall apply across any sites operating on the WPN Network.


What people need to learn from your experience is that they should take ten minutes or so to read the company's T&C before depositing their money, be it $25,000 or whatever other amount they are prepared to risk losing if they don't follow the T&C, precisely.
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01-08-2023 , 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by ap1580
no i didnt do anythign weird.. i used AUTOFILL and some of the info was wrong.. they took my deposit.. and then they said doesn't match sorry all your funds are ours NOW.. i aksed them to refund the funds back to the SAME WALLET.. so there cannot be any issue so what you are saying make no sense..

Crazy you agree they cant just take someone funds you would think they refund back to the original deposit method?

address was off only the city .. and cuz of that they seized 36k 10 hours after i deposited..

they are escalating again.. not sure what that means.. but maybe they fix and refund .. i hope they are good people and not thieves..

still nothing.. was able to contact PHIL NAGY and he said funds should never be taken like that.. but stil havent gotten any money back and noone responding.. will update tomorrow .. hopefully the site is not a complete scam
I'm not aware of an auto-fill able to detect an ACR client, you should have a pretty good one.

Thumb Up to ACR in this case
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01-08-2023 , 01:56 PM
LOL at the fact you would put random information and think they will payout, you should have used your real information when making an account, and also made sure you account was verified and ready to go for withdrawing and everything before making such a big deposit. Thats advice for any poker site, make sure your account is good to go before you make a deposit, you will be lucky if they give you your original deposit back. Hard for us to be on your side and say they are in the wrong here.
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01-08-2023 , 02:02 PM
You know ya done fkd up, right?
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01-09-2023 , 11:30 PM
i didnt do anything wrong.. i deposited then played.. and they just take the money? weird you guys think they should just keep your money? anyways they are investigating still ..

I had some wrong information depositing from a crypto wallet how does that hurt anything,, wallets are completely anon and i was unaware.. guess all the ACR team strong on here coming after me

yeah they could just send the deposit bank instead of stealing the money lol , they are chekcing agani and i already got a lawyer and he said the case is very easy to win.. guess see what hapens.. pretty sure they are gonna fix this anyways sinec i didnt even know i did anything wrong..

why thumbs up to them? i dont understand how you think anyone is hurt here other than them takign the funds? so bizarre..

i was not aware of these terms when i signed up in the middle of the night.. or tha ti did anything wrong.. all i ask is that they send my money back that i played fairly..

money laundering? lol do they report their user activity on a 1099 to the US government? what in gods name are you talking about..

also to give latest.. AGAIN the team has not rugged the funds but are looking into it further and likely to be returned as the CEO said they have never confiscated before despite the policy.. will update when final resolution is done but after talking to management and some of their pros I feel better..

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01-10-2023 , 02:13 AM
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Originally Posted by ap1580
I had some wrong information
What does that mean? Like, you misspelled something, or you gave them a false name, or...?

On another note, it would be great if you could collect all your thoughts before pressing the "Post" button, or go back and edit your post when you think of something else a minute later, and then three minutes later, etc. People find it annoying when someone makes 6 separate posts in the span of 10 minutes. FWIW, you have up to 30 minutes to edit your post. Thanks!
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01-10-2023 , 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by ap1580
i didnt do anything wrong.. i deposited then played.. and they just take the money? weird you guys think they should just keep your money? anyways they are investigating still ..

I had some wrong information depositing from a crypto wallet how does that hurt anything,, wallets are completely anon and i was unaware.. guess all the ACR team strong on here coming after me

yeah they could just send the deposit bank instead of stealing the money lol , they are chekcing agani and i already got a lawyer and he said the case is very easy to win.. guess see what hapens.. pretty sure they are gonna fix this anyways sinec i didnt even know i did anything wrong..

why thumbs up to them? i dont understand how you think anyone is hurt here other than them takign the funds? so bizarre..

i was not aware of these terms when i signed up in the middle of the night.. or tha ti did anything wrong.. all i ask is that they send my money back that i played fairly..

money laundering? lol do they report their user activity on a 1099 to the US government? what in gods name are you talking about..

also to give latest.. AGAIN the team has not rugged the funds but are looking into it further and likely to be returned as the CEO said they have never confiscated before despite the policy.. will update when final resolution is done but after talking to management and some of their pros I feel better..
Crypto wallet are anon, like you said, but poker site are not. ACR is one of the less regulated but they have rules. First, your action smell like money laundry from a mile. Second, if all that, is really a honest mistake, wow, I have no other words then wow.
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01-10-2023 , 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by GodBodyLC
LOL at the fact you would put random information and think they will payout, you should have used your real information when making an account, and also made sure you account was verified and ready to go for withdrawing and everything before making such a big deposit. Thats advice for any poker site, make sure your account is good to go before you make a deposit, you will be lucky if they give you your original deposit back. Hard for us to be on your side and say they are in the wrong here.
+1
I follow this advice anytime I sign up for a new site... make sure you have completed any ID/KYC verification, and send an email confirming you are verified and able to make a successful withdrawal (done before I ever make a deposit)
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01-10-2023 , 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by ap1580
already got a lawyer and he said the case is very easy to win..
First thing your lawyer would have told you is to stop posting.

It is very unlikely he would tell you that the case is very easy to win since it is dealing with the laws of another country.

You violated the KYC (Know your customer), which is one of the biggest things that a poker site has to follow, no matter what country it is in. By misleading them of your identity, you violated their terms and conditions. They could possibly be fined more than $35,000 just for letting you play under a false identity. It might not be 100% right to consficate your entire bankroll, but you are 100% in the wrong for giving them false information.
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01-18-2023 , 12:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett
What does that mean? Like, you misspelled something, or you gave them a false name, or...?

On another note, it would be great if you could collect all your thoughts before pressing the "Post" button, or go back and edit your post when you think of something else a minute later, and then three minutes later, etc. People find it annoying when someone makes 6 separate posts in the span of 10 minutes. FWIW, you have up to 30 minutes to edit your post. Thanks!
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if it were Rick Rull instead of Rick Roll then we can be sympathetic but if you entered addfljadfsd adjldsjal then probably not so much
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01-18-2023 , 10:20 AM
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surprised anyone would put money on there honestly after hearing something like this..
You mean surprised that anyone would use false information when making the deposit right? After reading it wont end up well for you. Always amazes me how stupid some of the poker players are when it comes to money.

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when i did nothing wrong.
You for real?
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