When was anything said about capping at 6 tables? I have played here for a while now and have played more than 6 tables at once without any trouble. I do play at True, not AC though, so maybe this is something specific to this skin...?

ACR has a 20 table max unless it has changed which I don't think it has. Finding 20 tables to play on is a different story.

...Guh? Getting ready to put some time in on True. Is this listed in the terms somewhere? I looked to no avail.

On the rewards tab, you should see either rakeback summary or elite program information, that's the one you're currently receiving. It wouldn't make any sense for them to give both.

EDIT:

Does anyone know the ETA on the store?? This is ridiculous.

If they straight up copied the PokerStars VIP system, why would anyone switch?
Also where is the rakeback option some people are talking about?

Any model that rewards grinders and not fish equally is just a short term solution as we saw during the poker boom.

Paradise poker/no rewards = went from #1 to a big joke.
Party Poker: equal rewards and rebuy bonuses and RB= went to #1
Poker stars: rewarded grinders mainly= survived because party pulled out, felt heat at end, but the total model is flawed and now they dont know why they cant attract recreational players.

I see it now. Thanks for the clarification. Rakeback it is for me...

I believe they are targeting all of the dissatisfaction with the switch to weighted contributed. They are awarding their VPPs based on the dealt method, essentially the ps vip system of 2011.

Might check it out, woohoo back playing 6/3 full ring! (J/K)

If ACR really wants to be the new poker stars....please please please




GET RID OF THE BADBEAT JACKPOT TABLES, THE RAKE IS RIDICULOUS

wat

PokerStars is #1 and over 5x bigger than the next biggest site...a year AFTER Black Friday.

I didn't understand what the person was really trying to say because the facts speak for themselves. The majority of people playing poker play on stars.

Is the VIP system better than regular 27% rakeback? I guess it might be if you are a major grinder. I can be one of those but, I don't think I am one of those. Also if its a dealt rake system how does this affect regular rakeback?

Regular rakeback is still weighted contributed. The VIP system can be better than regular 27% but depends on how much volume you put in. If you grind a lot than yes.

If this site wanted to steal traffic from Stars why wouldn't they just give every player a flat 40% RB paid weekly or something?

I agree the 2011 VIP system is better than the 2012 system, but it makes no sense to leave a site with great traffic, security, support, decent software, and most importantly they aren't serving Americans.

What I'm saying is there isn't enough incentive to leave Stars to play there. The 2011 VIP system is nice, but not nearly enough. If you want to play on a site with a VIP system which isn't Stars, Party is the obvious choice. Anyone who wants to be competitive needs a nice rakeback offer.

The only way I would consider playing on America's Cardroom is if they got a US license and could legally advertise on TV in the US, or they had some great non-volume based RB deal.

I dont think ACR thinks they will steal much traffic from PS. They just are just filling the US grinder hole in the poker industry which is fairly large.

I have seen commercials for ACR on TV late at night sometimes.

Nothing is illegal to advertise in the US. It isn't China or North Korea where the government controls the media. Its just not usually not very smart to advertise an illegal business.

Maso, some of us are not in Europe or Canada and cannot play on Stars or Party.

I deposited onto ACR just because of this new structure. I applaud them for giving it a try. Prior to their announcement I knew nothing about them and didn't really care. I certainy was not considering making a deposit there.

How much volume do really need to put into it to get full value out of this promotion? I'm looking for somewhere else to play because Merge is almost a waste of time because I don't get enough volume to get past Fire and I can't even get consistently there. Might be because I'm a nit where the contributed rake kills me, but still.

I already have a rakeback account made prior to this promotion for 27%.

Ran some rough numbers based on a small sample played on ACR.

I played mostly 100nl during the sample so my rake/100 and RP/100 is based on that. The sample size is too small for the rake numbers to be entirely accurate. The difference between dealt and WC rake is likely inaccurate as well.

The RB% for each bonus will be accurate.

Unless I messed up my math pretty badly somewhere (which is possible, its pretty late ), the store is gonna have to be pretty baller to make VIP>RB.

I'm trying to fully understand your chart. so you need to play 200,000 hands at 100NL to make 6% rakeback?

If my math was right, then you receive appx 7% rb via the VIP system until the 200k points bonus where your rb would jump to 10.45%. This would take appx half a million hands per year @ 100nl to achieve.

The chart does not include the store bought bonuses bc we don't have any information on them. Those will presumably add significant value.

The chart also doesn't include the rakeraces, but the value of those should remain constant for RB and VIP players so they don't matter.

That's what I understood from it as well. So this VIP promotion is worse than 27% rakeback.

The question is what bonus the RB players are allowed to buy. If the RB player can only buy the lowest bonus then when you get to the biggest bonus level it is probably better off RB.

My understanding is that RB players cannot buy the bonuses at all

Yeah RB players don't get anything from this promotion. RB only gets 27% rakeback. According to the chart I'm not seeing this promotion being any better than RB.