What a mess

Exactly. If the line shouldn't be drawn here, where should it be drawn?

So if someone thinks auto-counting limpers should be allowed and the line should be somewhere else then fine, but they should be able to state two very similar things that fall on either side of the line they want so as to illustrate exactly where that line is.

I posted in the commercial software forum but can someone please tell me what will happen to my multi colored HuD stats if I update to the most recent PT4 update? Will they still show me a numerical value or will the Hud turn completely unusuable?

I have a ProPokerHuD MTT premium version but I don't use their HuD only their custom stats from the HuD and a variety of their popups. All the data displayed on my screen is numerical aside from me using their Steal badges.

Anyway, just curious if anyone has a custom PT4 HuD with multi colors and did the update. Thanks.

Just to make the paragraph pointless. I play midstakes and welcome all changes. Think they're good. I know a few others who think the same.

I have tested the new update and the numerical values will still work, however, the colors will be messed up.

ok thx so static bet/raisesizes are ok but dynamic ones are not, that`s fine for me.

I welcome the restriction on huds too. I don`t know who knows the AJ Dynamic HUD but it has been a killer with all that info. Add to that the caddyscatter and caddysparkgraphs and fish has no fckn chance ...

Hello xxx,

Thanks for your email.

As you know, we are in the midst of updating our policies towards the use of third party tools and services. Any time there are somewhat significant changes requires contact and communication with developers, grace periods to allow them to make the required changes to their software, time to educate our player base etc.

Subsequently, the proposed changes are not yet official and you may still use all third party tools in their current state, as you did before. However, we are certainly moving towards the implementation of the changes in the near future.

Unfortunately, as it is not known which developers will opt to make changes to their tool to be inline with these revisions, we are unable to confirm which tools will be or won't be able to be used once this transition period has expired and the rules are official.

Suffice to say, once the rules are official, they will be posted on our website and our stance towards prominent third party tools will be published. We will look to communicate these changes to the wider player base in the best way possible.

If you have any further questions, please don't hesitate to ask.

Regards,

Dmitry
PokerStars Game Integrity

^ so are the rules in effect or not?

The list of prohibited software hasn't been changed yet.

Thank you for your email,

As the proposed changes are not yet official and you may still use all third party tools in their current state, as you did before.

Once the rules are official, we will look to communicate these changes to the wider player base in the best way possible.

Regards

Brian
Pokerstars Game Integrity

Wow !
I really hate this changes
Less winrates to the whole regs

You need to change your terms of service to make the changes official. That's the contractual agreement between you and the players.

So, now this type of config on StarsHelper would be ilegal ??



I really want to know this...

I think the problem is the *nc. I have removed it from my config and only use static raisesizes. If you change your 3b to 9bb only and not 9bb+... then you should be fine.

Lol I deposited like 6 times this month and lost my money so fast you wouldnt believe.

REAL FISH and REAL NEW PLAYERS will not last for much longer.
It's sad really, 5 years ago you saw all the big pricepools and you had the dream and feeling you could win.

Now you know even if you run good your gonna get rekt in middle phase.

Poker has become like roulette for me.

the only rule change that's affecting me is the colour coding of stats.

why is it limited to 3? shouldn't it be 1 or as many as you want? if i can still see the stats what difference does it make if they're different colours? it just makes it easier to read.

i really hate this change, and don't understand any reason for it.

it is 3 color ranges (2 thresholds) per stat. If you are talking about not using color ranges and having them be static (not changing when the stat goes up/down) then it doesn't matter if you have 50 stats and each stat is a different color. That rule is referring to more than 3 ranges (2 thresholds) for a single stat.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...postcount=2794

+1

yeah colour range per stat. i wouldn't have a rainbow coloured hud for the sake of it

if someone has a 90% vpip, i can still see it's a high number even if it's not the colour i want it to be for a high number, it just means i need to look at the number for an extra second and don't see why stars values getting rid of that ability

uhm, I use colors as abbrevations to make the hud smaller, i hope i dont get a problem with that lol.

Because there are people selling HUDs (w/advanced custom stats) that the author explain how to play a lot of stats with auto-color ranges... so if color is (let´s say) green... you have to play Bet - Bet - Bet or if the color is Red (in a different stat) you have to play Call - Call - Call or Call - Call - Fold in a 3Bet pot. Imagine these people didn´t know how to play or why playing like that... but because of that "amazing" HUD they have an advantage, they would not in other way at real-time spots

Thanks for clearing that up. The Amaya statement was worded very poorly.

Are the changes in effect already?

Shouldn´t there be some announcements via email or at least a pop-up in the client?

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...postcount=2860

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...postcount=2806

It may be correct, but that's a very conservative reading of the statement. To me it seems more likely it's just a simple example than it is stating "At most, two thresholds are allowed for each stat". Otherwise why wouldn't they say that.

There's 2 pages following covering things a HUD may not do. Nowhere in this section does it say "color a stat using 3+ thresholds", or otherwise.

Also there's this banning of "basing the ranges upon population based tendencies", which makes no sense. Surely they didn't pull <20%, 20-30%, >30% as their example ranges for VPIP our of thin air. If they did, it's surprisingly close to the population tendencies for certain formats.