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09-15-2017 , 07:57 PM
Dealers bother me more than other players. If a player is rude/bad then at least odds suggest they are leaking chips. Even players distracted on their phone are fish to some degree.

I was in a game of HI/LO Omaha recently. There was no low hand on board and the two people showed down for HI. One guy had it with a set of Aces, but the dealer miscounted and gave it to his opponent with a 4 card straight. Myself and at least one other person at the table raised a concern about it (Omaha can be a little confusing) and she adamantly asserted we were wrong. I'm quite certain I was not, should have brought it up with the floor. But the dealer acted upset about being called out on that for the rest of her time at the table. I hope they fire her.
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09-16-2017 , 07:58 AM
I mean, if you're going to try to fix an error, maybe do it while the cards are still there on the table? When did you bring it up?
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09-16-2017 , 11:20 AM
People make mistakes. Omaha is a difficult game to read hands in, even with an experienced dealer. And no one likes to be told that they were wrong, even if they actually are. Bring it to attention to the floor before the next hand both to get the pot shipped right and so the floor can have a private teaching moment with the dealer.
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09-16-2017 , 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Dick Tracy
Table Captains.

Bad breath. Sat next to a guy who sighed every 5 minutes and his breath legit smelled like soil + earthworms. Wanted to barf every time.
I'm adding this tactic to my arsenal for my next session.
anyone know a good earthworm store ?
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09-16-2017 , 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by snowman
I'm adding this tactic to my arsenal for my next session.
anyone know a good earthworm store ?
Uncle Jim's earthworm is goid. You can get red wriggler or night crawlers.

A good, healthy vermicompost bin actually does not smell bad at all. Very earthy and loamy. If there is standing water in the bin, it can smell bad, but this is not normal or healthy
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09-16-2017 , 01:18 PM
This not a new gripe. But the guy two seats over(sunglasses and headphones) is taking a measured six seconds for every decision. It is amazing how long six seconds us
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09-16-2017 , 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by SpewingIsMyMove
This not a new gripe. But the guy two seats over(sunglasses and headphones) is taking a measured six seconds for every decision. It is amazing how long six seconds us
I change tables more than 4 out of 5 times in your situation. It's exceedingly rare that there's enough superfish there who would make it worth my while to deal with that bull****.
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09-16-2017 , 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Rapini
I change tables more than 4 out of 5 times in your situation. It's exceedingly rare that there's enough superfish there who would make it worth my while to deal with that bull****.
Unfortunately, was a tournament. Even worse, the guy was getting hit in the face with the deck
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09-16-2017 , 04:26 PM
Drivers who stalk people in the first row in the parking lot when there are many open spots in the second row. It's another 20 feet you lazy ****s! This is more prevalent in casinos than anywhere else.

There seems to be a trend where people bring a fidget spinner as a card protector, and keep it spinning when they are involved in a hand. Ugh
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09-17-2017 , 02:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Aurora Tom
People make mistakes. Omaha is a difficult game to read hands in, even with an experienced dealer. And no one likes to be told that they were wrong, even if they actually are. Bring it to attention to the floor before the next hand both to get the pot shipped right and so the floor can have a private teaching moment with the dealer.
She announced the winner fairly quickly. I figured I must have misread the cards, I am confused. Another player questions the pot, but neither he nor I are in it. I say that I think the set of Aces is the winner rogjht as the dealer flipped the cards over.

The dealer became very defensive at this point and very vocally denied any mistake. This is why I didn't call the floor. I had some cognitive dissonance about what to do because the dealer was quite outspoken about the situation, though in hindsight I know the other player and I were right. I should have called the floor over though, as you say. The dealer never did due diligence of laying out each players 5-card hand for clarification. And shouldn't have mucked cards when a player raised a concern
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09-17-2017 , 03:32 AM
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Originally Posted by AngryPidgeon
She announced the winner fairly quickly. I figured I must have misread the cards, I am confused. Another player questions the pot, but neither he nor I are in it. I say that I think the set of Aces is the winner rogjht as the dealer flipped the cards over.

The dealer became very defensive at this point and very vocally denied any mistake. This is why I didn't call the floor. I had some cognitive dissonance about what to do because the dealer was quite outspoken about the situation, though in hindsight I know the other player and I were right. I should have called the floor over though, as you say. The dealer never did due diligence of laying out each players 5-card hand for clarification. And shouldn't have mucked cards when a player raised a concern
I'd just ask the dealer to hang on a moment or slowly explain the reasoning to you. I think most will do this.

I had a hand yesterday with 4 players that got a little complicated where one guy goes all in OTF for 35, one guy flats, I flat, and a fourth guy calls all-in for 20. The two of us not all-in check it down. The guy with 20 wins, but I beat the other three players. Dealer gives me 6 dollars. I sit there confused and say "6 dollars? Is that it? Doesn't seem right" but he just says "Yep" authoritatively and smiles and goes on to the next hand. I should have asked him to explain his math because I figured it out later and I got jacked like 40 bucks. Whoops. At least it was a small pot though.

Couple days before I have a pot where villain has AQ and I have AT on A988A. Villain shoves river I call. We flip our hands over and the dealer says "Aces and 8s with a Q" and starts shipping the pot to villain. Luckily I caught it immediately and told him we both had the same boat and it's a chop. I wonder if villain would have taken the pot if I hadn't corrected the dealer. He didn't say anything before or after about the hand so I'm thinking probably.

But you're right that kind of crap really bugs me. I shouldn't have to be hyperobservant all the time to make sure dealers don't misread hands or calculate side pots correctly.

Oh and there's one dealer where I play who instead of saying "raise" when there's a raise says "There has been an increase in the size of the wager." And he says this slowly and uses this inflection like "THERE has been an INcrease in the SIZE of the WAGER". Every. Freaking. Time. He is so annoying. Does he think this is clever? I don't get it. Just wastes time.
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09-17-2017 , 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Shai Hulud
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So you let the dealer put out the turn and river before the sidepot was made? If the dealer had made the sidepot, you had plenty of time to see if it was right.

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09-17-2017 , 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by DarkOne
There seems to be a trend where people bring a fidget spinner as a card protector, and keep it spinning when they are involved in a hand. Ugh
It seems like every generation has it's "pet rock" (All you young people, Google it)

I posted this anecdote before, so sorry for repeating, but it's relevant here and I still find it amusing.

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Harrah's AC last week, 2 seat had his chips in a tower, at least a foot high, conveniently located right in front of his cup of soda. He was constantly spinning one of those fidgit spinners on top of the tower.

I think you all know what eventually happened.
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09-17-2017 , 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Shai Hulud
I'd just ask the dealer to hang on a moment or slowly explain the reasoning to you. I think most will do this.
Ya, she probably would have if we asked. I was just mulling this over in my head though and there always has been an interesting dynamic between dealers and players. Everywhere I've played poker for any significant amount of time, there is always some ..dynamic.. between the dealers and the regulars.

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I should have asked him to explain his math because I figured it out later and I got jacked like 40 bucks. Whoops. At least it was a small pot though.
I'd like to know the thought process behind that too, ha. $6 is such a random amount. Side pot situations are always the most confusing. The other day I ended up flopping a set of Nines, with 986. I ended up in a 3-way AllIn with a guy with a flush draw and a guy with a straight and 4 cards to a straight flush. No one improved and fortunately the straight was the shortest stack. I started and ended the hand with almost exactly $400 in front of me.
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09-17-2017 , 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by e_holle
So you let the dealer put out the turn and river before the sidepot was made? If the dealer had made the sidepot, you had plenty of time to see if it was right.
No he separated the pots first. I don't know if he did it wrong or awarded them wrong after. Never said I was blameless, but I was focusing more on my hand and the other guy still in it than whether the pots were made correctly. I also felt I would win all the pots pretty often in this spot so I wasn't really thinking about the specific scenario the guy with 20 wins and then I beat the other two hands.
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09-18-2017 , 04:15 AM
People who don't ****ing show or muck at showdown, even after the other guy has shown his cards and they know they have lost. They sit there studying the board for like 20-45 seconds before mucking. Just turn your cards over or muck.
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09-19-2017 , 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by DarkOne
Drivers who stalk people in the first row in the parking lot when there are many open spots in the second row. It's another 20 feet you lazy ****s! This is more prevalent in casinos than anywhere else.

There seems to be a trend where people bring a fidget spinner as a card protector, and keep it spinning when they are involved in a hand. Ugh
Hilarious because I literally went to the casino yesterday and as I am pulling in I see a dude just sitting waiting for 2 mins or more. I'm thinking damn, lot must be full. I drive maybe 50 feet? 5 spots open. I was cracking up and just amazed at how fat and lazy people are. Pathetic.
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09-19-2017 , 02:37 PM
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Hilarious because I literally went to the casino yesterday and as I am pulling in I see a dude just sitting waiting for 2 mins or more. I'm thinking damn, lot must be full. I drive maybe 50 feet? 5 spots open. I was cracking up and just amazed at how fat and lazy people are. Pathetic.
My favorite is when people do this at the mall, where you are going to walk a ton anyways, or, even better, at the gym.
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09-19-2017 , 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Badreg2017
People who don't ****ing show or muck at showdown, even after the other guy has shown his cards and they know they have lost. They sit there studying the board for like 20-45 seconds before mucking. Just turn your cards over or muck.
Ugh, there's a bad reg in one of the games I play in that does this constantly. I think he thinks he's putting people on tilt but all he's doing is being an *******.

It's between him and the guy who has to analyze every ****ing hand he plays out loud with anyone at the table that will talk to him about it for most annoying bad reg in the game.

The fact that they are both easy to exploit is the only thing that makes them bearable.
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09-19-2017 , 03:06 PM
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People who don't ****ing show or muck at showdown, even after the other guy has shown his cards and they know they have lost. They sit there studying the board for like 20-45 seconds before mucking. Just turn your cards over or muck.
I wish dealers would enforce this rule at showdown. When it's on you either table your hand or muck it. Not "I missed", "One pair", "You got me." Simply show your hand or forfeit any claim to the pot. Dealers refuse to enforce this so they make the player the jerk when he asks the hand be tabled or mucked.
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09-19-2017 , 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by manbearpuig
I wish dealers would enforce this rule at showdown. When it's on you either table your hand or muck it. Not "I missed", "One pair", "You got me." Simply show your hand or forfeit any claim to the pot. Dealers refuse to enforce this so they make the player the jerk when he asks the hand be tabled or mucked.
How much time to show is allowed by this rule?
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09-20-2017 , 04:21 AM
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Originally Posted by manbearpuig
I wish dealers would enforce this rule at showdown. When it's on you either table your hand or muck it. Not "I missed", "One pair", "You got me." Simply show your hand or forfeit any claim to the pot. Dealers refuse to enforce this so they make the player the jerk when he asks the hand be tabled or mucked.
In the licensed Michigan charity rooms where I play, it's standard practice for the dealers to say "turn 'um up" if someone doesn't do it right away at the showdown.
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09-20-2017 , 09:35 AM
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People who don't ****ing show or muck at showdown, even after the other guy has shown his cards and they know they have lost. They sit there studying the board for like 20-45 seconds before mucking. Just turn your cards over or muck.
I'm glad that I'm not the only one who finds this poop annoying.

Are they trying to save face, while at the same time, making sure they don't misread their hand?

I agree with the poster that said that not turning them over is -EV. I actually want to say that at the table, but then I really end up despising some of these people, and don't want to help them.

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09-20-2017 , 10:01 AM
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I'm glad that I'm not the only one who finds this poop annoying.

Are they trying to save face, while at the same time, making sure they don't misread their hand?

I agree with the poster that said that not turning them over is -EV. I actually want to say that at the table, but then I really end up despising some of these people, and don't want to help them.
I think that is part of it, but sometimes it is just another form of a bad beat story. They are staring at their hand to make everyone at the table realize, without showing the hand, that they had a really good hand and they cannot believe how unlucky they got.

Of course, like all other forms of bad beat stories, no one cares.

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09-20-2017 , 12:59 PM
I think there is a chance that villain holding on too long may just be to save face. Holding a gutshot on the turn, he calls against odds. Bricks the river and wants everyone to "see" that he had a legit turn-call.
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