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05-08-2017 , 11:16 PM
If i was a player at that tabl;e i would ask for a floor immediatly and explain how their dealer just openly violated optah 2x in the same hand. And nothing happened I would call gaming on the spot. Essentially the dealer just colluded with the player, if the floor openly allows this in the room, what else can I expect?

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Originally Posted by psujohn
It's really bad in this room. To the point where dealers seem to be expected to facilitate the promos.

Last night I saw a hand folded to the SB who asked about a chop BB said - No let's play it. SB is confused. BB says I have a high hand potential. SB calls and dealer says "If she bets $5 you should probably call"

Worst - heads up, there's a possible high hand on board but < $10 in the pot. Check, bet small, dealer looks at the bettor and says "Do you need a call". he nods. OOP goes to muck - dealer blocks the cards and says "Wait, he needs a call". OOP is confused. Dealer asks bettor "Will you give it back", bettor nods.

Makes me want to avoid the room and now that I have choices I largely do.
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05-09-2017 , 09:37 PM
When there is one level before break and color up in a tournament and the smallest chip is not needed anymore there is always that one douchebag that bets his one remaining chip.

For instance blinds 75/300/600 go up to 100/400/800. some guy open raises to 1825 instead of 1800. Slows the game down so much. By this time dealer has already moved the 25 chips to one player leaving most players without any 25s.

I am very active in buying up the chips being colored up soon to try and stop this but seems like every so often there is one guy that just doesn't understand not to use them anymore.
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05-10-2017 , 11:13 PM
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Originally Posted by TS2
If i was a player at that tabl;e i would ask for a floor immediatly and explain how their dealer just openly violated optah 2x in the same hand. And nothing happened I would call gaming on the spot. Essentially the dealer just colluded with the player, if the floor openly allows this in the room, what else can I expect?

Some rooms, mostly the slower ones, are informal at times. You can go with it, or you can blow up a profitable spot by being a rules lawyer.
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05-11-2017 , 11:17 AM
I understand that, but what kind of precedent are you setting?

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Originally Posted by Elbow Jobertski
Some rooms, mostly the slower ones, are informal at times. You can go with it, or you can blow up a profitable spot by being a rules lawyer.
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05-11-2017 , 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by TS2
I understand that, but what kind of precedent are you setting?
That chasing promos is tolerated? There are lines to be drawn, but the line is probably well above players wink-winking their way through taking a promo shot and the dealers not being hypocritical about acting like it isn't happening. Just let the silly people limp and get the money in the pot if they hit their longshot. Making a fuss about it might stop it for a day, likely because four players just picked up because of this and the one game in the room broke.

Especially bad when the room has been operating this way forever without going down any slippery slope into anarchy. Showing up as a new player and insisting that this is not the Right Way is a bad idea for a whole heap of reasons.
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05-12-2017 , 03:50 PM
high hand promos are literally the worst
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05-12-2017 , 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by TS2
If i was a player at that tabl;e i would ask for a floor immediatly and explain how their dealer just openly violated optah 2x in the same hand. And nothing happened I would call gaming on the spot. Essentially the dealer just colluded with the player, if the floor openly allows this in the room, what else can I expect?
No you wouldn't. There's no way you're calling gaming about $5. Especially $5 that isn't your money. They'd laugh you off the phone before you could even get to your point about it being a slippery slope.
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05-12-2017 , 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by WateryBoil
high hand promos are literally the worst
I disagree bec they spread smallish amounts among many players. Huge BBJ's that pay very few large amounts are the worst.
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05-12-2017 , 11:16 PM
Today's game reminded me of another: If you MUST chew on a tooth pick, please for the love of mercy, take the damn thing out of the wrapper!
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05-13-2017 , 01:33 AM
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Originally Posted by drumn4life0789
When there is one level before break and color up in a tournament...
Reminds me of an issue I have. People want the dealer to help facilitate the color up before the round is over. If the dealer is busy moving chips across the table, he can't move the hand along. If he can't move the hand along he can't get as many hands out. A good dealer can color up the entire table and suit both decks in 7 and a half minutes without any help at all. Let the dealer deal and worry about coloring up at the break.
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05-13-2017 , 06:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Howard Beale
I disagree bec they spread smallish amounts among many players. Huge BBJ's that pay very few large amounts are the worst.
I agree with your disagreement, high hand promos are quite nice.
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05-13-2017 , 06:38 PM
Hygiene.

1. Shower
2. If you are prone to bring one of those cute little fanny packs to the poker room, include deodorant and mints.
3. Stop ordering food that doesn't require utensils.
4. Hand sanitizer goes a long way.
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05-13-2017 , 10:48 PM
a good dealer can do it in a lot less than 7.5 minutes.

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Originally Posted by DisRuptive1
Reminds me of an issue I have. People want the dealer to help facilitate the color up before the round is over. If the dealer is busy moving chips across the table, he can't move the hand along. If he can't move the hand along he can't get as many hands out. A good dealer can color up the entire table and suit both decks in 7 and a half minutes without any help at all. Let the dealer deal and worry about coloring up at the break.
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05-14-2017 , 02:33 AM
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Originally Posted by TS2
I understand that, but what kind of precedent are you setting?
You are setting the precedent that you are there to make money and not be some petty little ***** who has to ruin life by being a ***** about every little thing. Who the **** cares? They are chasing after dumb promo money, these are the people you make money off of and if you **** on the reason they play they won't play. Do the world a favor and keep to yourself.
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05-14-2017 , 10:21 PM
so you are saying the dealer shoudl selectively enforce the rules of the room and risk getting in trouble with gaming if someone complains.... Sorry my job is worth more than accommodating rule breaking.
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05-15-2017 , 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by TS2
If i was a player at that tabl;e i would ask for a floor immediatly and explain how their dealer just openly violated optah 2x in the same hand. And nothing happened I would call gaming on the spot. Essentially the dealer just colluded with the player, if the floor openly allows this in the room, what else can I expect?
If you would honestly take time away from your day, to call the gaming commission on this, or make a big fuss and slow up the game, I truly feel bad for how you live your day to day life. Now, should the dealer have done it, no, probably not. Guessing it was a good/well liked regular and some n00b and he was just trying to help the guy out, and probably get himself a decent tip in the process..... But in the long run, is it REALLY that big of a deal, no. To sit there, look up the gaming commissions number, stop the game, call and take time out of your life to do that.. Jesus man, just get a life and move on to the next hand instead of playing narc for a dealer just trying to help someone out. There should be much bigger problems in your life to deal with... Not to mention, the hate you would get from the person who won, the dealer and probably the floor and the rest of the room/dealers for being "That guy"
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05-15-2017 , 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Hotrodsather
You are setting the precedent that you are there to make money and not be some petty little ***** who has to ruin life by being a ***** about every little thing. Who the **** cares? They are chasing after dumb promo money, these are the people you make money off of and if you **** on the reason they play they won't play. Do the world a favor and keep to yourself.
WOW. Cool down. Take a breath. If your reactions are always this strong you will chase off just as many. Frankly, even if I were the fish and you were supporting me I would look for a reason to leave or table change.
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05-16-2017 , 03:45 AM
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Originally Posted by WateryBoil
high hand promos are literally the worst
Why? Promos attract rec players and encourage them to limp call. Seems like a profitable arrangement if you're a stronger player.

Sounds like psujohn and I might play in the same room because his experience is the same as mine. I've seen a lot of leeway with table talk when it comes to high hands/promotions. The dealers look the other way (sometimes even facilitating) because they want big tips. Lots of players look the other way because its mostly fish who obsess over the promos and it's not a big deal because the money comes from the casino's pocket.

The only thing that bothers me about this is that since it is technically against the rules and informal, some dealers will be more lenient than others and it's not consistent.

For instance, I mucked a high hand once (opponent folded, I flashed my full house and threw the cards into the muck, I know stupid..). The floor ruled that since I never tabled my hand it they couldn't count it. Definitely a fair ruling, the mistake was on me and I didn't make a fuss. A few weeks later, a guy at my table did the same thing (I cant even remember if he flashed his cards or not) and the floor put him up for a high hand. It was super unprofessional and I think the dealer was sorta pushing for it for the potential tip money. I didn't make a fuss because who really cares, it's not money out of my pocket and they are about to give a fish 1000 free bucks. However, it was a little tilting that given a different floor/dealer I could have gotten paid.
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05-16-2017 , 12:27 PM
'Different floor, different decision' is oh, so standard.
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05-16-2017 , 12:27 PM
High hand promos are great for a room. They drive a lot of fishy traffic and encourage fishy play. The kind that have a lot of small payouts (hourly) get money back onto the table quickly and into the hands of people (usually) more willing to gamble with it.

Large, nearly impossible to hit Bad Beat Jackpots are more of a mixed bag. Yes, they drive traffic and ****ty play, but they drive *too much* traffic and kill the waitlists, while people sit around and grind for hours trying to hit it. Then all that money gets dumped to 2 people in big chunks, and 4-8 people in "OK" chunks. Little of which is going back into play any time soon.
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05-16-2017 , 02:21 PM
I've seen a few poker rooms that pay out a "room share", where anyone playing a cash game that has a jackpot drop gets part of the bad beat. It's great for the room if it keeps a couple of 3/6 games running longer. It must be a fun atmosphere when a big jackpot goes off in a room like that.
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05-16-2017 , 03:09 PM
I hit two high hands in two days this week. Quad jacks for $50 and straight flush with 64clubs for $224. Woo hoo.
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05-16-2017 , 07:25 PM
When people do that stupid Phil Ivey face with their mouth half open, while they stare into space pretending that they are calculating odds or something while they make a bet.
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05-17-2017 , 01:45 AM
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Originally Posted by busto23
Lol I say "I had X Y and I would have won that pot" a lot of times at the tables. It entertains the fish, and makes regs think I'm a fish too.


Hell ya i do that all the time and get all excited and say like "maybe next time!!"


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05-17-2017 , 04:19 AM
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Originally Posted by EddyB66
When people do that stupid Phil Ivey face with their mouth half open, while they stare into space pretending that they are calculating odds or something while they make a bet.
I try to imitate Tom Dwan's face instead.
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