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09-21-2017 , 04:18 PM

#26

callipygian

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Originally Posted by Playbig2000

If everyone says "NO, we can't tell you, naa na naa na naaa naaaaa", then the recreational player might just stay in pit games next time.

Or worse yet stays at the poker table and does math.

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09-22-2017 , 12:40 PM

#27

Suit

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Originally Posted by Leha

Player A bets 100$, player B shoves for 142$.
Player C asks the dealer "if i call, can A raise?"
Can the dealer answer that?

Yes and the dealer should answer that. As mentioned, there is a better way to phrase the question, but it is the same question. The only thing I will point out is that player C should not be asking this question unless action is on him and the dealer should not answer the question if the action is not on him.

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09-26-2017 , 04:19 AM

#28

CupOfSalt

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I see no problem answering that question... I've been asked it before and have answered it.

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09-26-2017 , 10:33 AM

#29

Ray Zee

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of course. its the same as if someone wasnt sure of a three raise rule in place, and asked if i call can it still be raised.

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09-26-2017 , 11:52 AM

#30

Phil9

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Originally Posted by psujohn

A better tweak to the OP is B shoves for $151 (ie >50% but < 100% raise)

I think I actually did once hear a dealer say "I can't answer that" to this exact question. I've also seen a dealer refuse to answer when seat 1 bets, seat 2 is thinking and seat 3 asks "how much is the bet". I've also seen a spot like OP where A bet, B shoves for less than a raise, C calls and A silently starts cutting out a raise and the dealer says nothing until they move it forward.

They're all kinda nitty interpretations of the rules but not entirely unreasonable. What sucks though is that I suspect if you ask a general rules question "Does an all-in of less than a full raise re-open betting to a player that has already bet" you can get an answer. If you ask the easier more "If I call can he raise" you might not.

As they should. Dealers shouldn't be answering such questions asked by a player out of turn for various reasons. The most essential as far as running the game goes is that the dealer should be paying attention to the current action.

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09-26-2017 , 11:59 AM

#31

psandman

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I got called to a table last week. A player had asked the dealer if a flush beats a straight and the dealer did not know if she could answer that question in the middle of a hand.

I quickly realized it was legit .... the player didn't know the ranks of hands. I answered his questions waited for the hand to finish and then I went through all the hand rankings with him and explained to him why we didn't want him asking those questions during the hand.

Answering the question did no damage .... if any damage was to be done it was by his asking it so at that point I could see no reason not to answer him.

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09-26-2017 , 02:25 PM

#32

BDHarrison

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Originally Posted by chillrob

I think the dealer should be allowed to answer, but I don't think it is usually a good idea to ask, because if the answer is yes, it will inform player 1 he is allowed to raise. Even if he already knew it was allowed, it may make him more likely to raise, because he thinks you don't want him to, or just by reminding him that it is an option.

In the past, I may have asked this question even though I know the answer in an attempt to get the other player to raise after I just call. It may have worked.

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09-26-2017 , 03:46 PM

#33

cardzone

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GOTCHA WASNT THAT A MOVIE WITH THAT HOT CHICK AND Anthony Edwards

Live poker tourneys are a hoot,,, raise all in and see what happens.

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09-26-2017 , 07:08 PM

#34

dinesh

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Originally Posted by cardzone

GOTCHA WASNT THAT A MOVIE WITH THAT HOT CHICK AND Anthony Edwards

Wow, deep cut. Linda Fiorentino.

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09-26-2017 , 07:49 PM

#35

chillrob

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I think it's fine to answer a question about the rank of hands during a hand, at least if headsup. If asked when multiway, the asking does present a problem of leading other players, but really the answering does not.

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09-27-2017 , 12:08 AM

#36

Ray Zee

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there are certain things every player at the table is entitled to know. and if shouldnt matter when the have to ask. and the dealer or floor needs to answer but at the appropriate time.

that why we have a floor person to help the table out.

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09-28-2017 , 04:07 PM

#37

Olaff

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Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 1,627

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leha

Player A bets 100$, player B shoves for 142$.
Player C asks the dealer "if i call, can A raise?"
Can the dealer answer that?

yes

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