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Would You Attempt To Tank For 4 Minutes For A Shot At a 0 HH Jackpot? Would You Attempt To Tank For 4 Minutes For A Shot At a 0 HH Jackpot?

03-31-2018 , 06:10 PM
Local casino recently ran a $250 every 20 minutes hh promo. While playing 1-2 nl With 5 minutes left in current qualifying period, I turn quad 6's on the button in a heads up pot when high hand at the monent was a straigh flush. There were 4 minutes left in the current qualifying period. Opponent goes AI for his last $100 into a $300 pot on the river. There were a minimum of 50 tables playing qualifying games at the time

Whats the opinions on attempting to tank before calling until the new hh qualifying period starts?

Last edited by Carl_LaFong; 03-31-2018 at 06:35 PM.
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03-31-2018 , 06:15 PM
So everyone else at the table should wait an unreasonable length of time so you can get a shot at $250? I call the clock at around 2 minutes regardless.
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03-31-2018 , 06:27 PM
No.

I'm also calling the clock.
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03-31-2018 , 06:33 PM
HH's are designated by when they were dealt, not when they are won. Tanking until the clock runs out wont do you any good
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03-31-2018 , 07:15 PM
In my room you wont get paid if you wait more than a few seconds if the action is on you and you have the nuts. If you flop it you have multiple streets to use to stall but its still very unlikely you can get away with 4 mins total.
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03-31-2018 , 08:01 PM
Straight up ridiculous to think you should be allowed to stall for that long.

Also, I don't know if the rule is when the hand is dealt or not, but it should be to avoid nonsense like this.
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03-31-2018 , 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Carl_LaFong
Local casino recently ran a $250 every 20 minutes hh promo. While playing 1-2 nl With 5 minutes left in current qualifying period, I turn quad 6's on the button in a heads up pot when high hand at the monent was a straigh flush. There were 4 minutes left in the current qualifying period. Opponent goes AI for his last $100 into a $300 pot on the river. There were a minimum of 50 tables playing qualifying games at the time

Whats the opinions on attempting to tank before calling until the new hh qualifying period starts?
So you want to tank for 4 minutes facing an all in on the river holding the nuts??? For a $100 bet into a $300 pot? Are you going to pretend to have a painful decision for 4minutes before turning over the nuts? Are you going to tell the table I have the nut Im just making everyone here wait(dealer included no tips) for 4 minutes?

What did you actually do?
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03-31-2018 , 09:01 PM
No and trying is a dick move. Plus the way to avoid this is simply base time on time hand starts. Not everywhere does so but it is the fairest way since the start of a hand is very definable, even if not a universal definition.

Last edited by dinesh; 04-01-2018 at 02:01 AM.
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03-31-2018 , 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by javi
HH's are designated by when they were dealt, not when they are won. Tanking until the clock runs out wont do you any good
Lots of rooms are using the time at showdown.

People tanking to get into the next HH time slot is a pretty common and extremely annoying thing.

To make matters worse, it feels like half the table is usually perfectly fine with it and expects others to return the favor.

FWIW, using the time a hand starts doesn't totally solve the problem. That creates situations where people tank to move the next hand to the next HH time slot "because nobody beats a straight flush anyway"
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03-31-2018 , 11:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Carl_LaFong
Local casino recently ran a $250 every 20 minutes hh promo. While playing 1-2 nl With 5 minutes left in current qualifying period, I turn quad 6's on the button in a heads up pot when high hand at the monent was a straigh flush. There were 4 minutes left in the current qualifying period. Opponent goes AI for his last $100 into a $300 pot on the river. There were a minimum of 50 tables playing qualifying games at the time

Whats the opinions on attempting to tank before calling until the new hh qualifying period starts?
I once hit quad aces with about 5 minutes left on a $1000 high hand with a straight flush already out there. I didn't even consider tanking that long to get it to the next period because it's ****ing ridiculous.

Any room worth their salt would void your high hand if you had the nuts on the river and tanked for 4 minutes. Very very very annoying aspect of live poker.
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04-01-2018 , 12:41 AM
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Originally Posted by SpartanDoug
I once hit quad aces with about 5 minutes left on a $1000 high hand with a straight flush already out there. I didn't even consider tanking that long to get it to the next period because it's ****ing ridiculous.

Any room worth their salt would void your high hand if you had the nuts on the river and tanked for 4 minutes. Very very very annoying aspect of live poker.
I dunno, I find it very annoying when every player is begging you to let them play their 73s and **** because they could hit the HH.
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04-01-2018 , 01:20 AM
If the room is basing it on time at showdown, what is an acceptable amount of time to tank then? 2 minutes? 1 minute?

Not saying I condone it or would do it just wondering what everyone thinks is acceptable in this situation.
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04-01-2018 , 02:24 AM
if they timestamp the hand at showdown then I'd tank for a 1k payout and buy everyone a drink to make amends and tip the dealer.
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04-01-2018 , 02:30 AM
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Originally Posted by jonchillmatic
If the room is basing it on time at showdown, what is an acceptable amount of time to tank then? 2 minutes? 1 minute?

Not saying I condone it or would do it just wondering what everyone thinks is acceptable in this situation.
One minute sounds about right. Maybe a little longer for an extremely likely winning high hand.

I've played at a 4-8 table where other players were confused why one player didn't stall a little (I think 30 seconds) with his AAAKK, so at least with that group it would be accepted behavior.

Last edited by illdonk; 04-01-2018 at 02:38 AM.
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04-01-2018 , 03:00 AM
Not sure where to draw the line. I've tanked 1 minute before. Never even thought about trying with 4 minutes to go. Pretty sure the dealer will have to point out you stalled for 4 min and it won't go up in most of the rooms I play in. I haven't seen a dealer complain for 1 minute.

For all the people saying start of the hand is better:
People tanking for high hand is annoying...
Someone THINKING they have high hand won for 3-4 minutes while hands finish and doesn't win is way worse in my opinion.
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04-01-2018 , 03:12 AM
The coordination is harder for the start-of-hand option, especially with a larger room and shorter HH periods.

Getting confirmation that 15 different tables have completed their 8:15-8:30 hand so they can pay that one out and start the 8:30-8:45 is really annoying, more so than the occasional tanking.
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04-01-2018 , 03:44 AM
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Originally Posted by MMMed13
For all the people saying start of the hand is better:
People tanking for high hand is annoying...
Someone THINKING they have high hand won for 3-4 minutes while hands finish and doesn't win is way worse in my opinion.
I don't know why that would be annoying in the least . Don't count your chickens before they're hatched.
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04-01-2018 , 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by javi
HH's are designated by when they were dealt, not when they are won. Tanking until the clock runs out wont do you any good
Not at any of the rooms I play at in the Miami area.
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04-01-2018 , 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by SpartanDoug
Very very very annoying aspect of live poker.
Another aspect of the HH tanking issue is the reverse of what has been discussed in this thread. Someone with say quad tens toward the end of the HH period, but the current HH is a straight flush. The quad tens person then tanks until the beginning of the next HH period so that his hand goes up on the board. It's normal at the start of a new HH period to hear a dealer yell that he has a HH at his table 5 seconds into the new period.
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04-01-2018 , 08:34 AM
I know a guy who was stalled for about 2 minutes with a set of 9s on the turn just in case he hit the case 9 on the river. Quad Tens was on the board.

I wanted to throat punch him.
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04-01-2018 , 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by MikeStarr

I wanted to throat punch him.
This would have been an acceptable outcome. As a matter of fact, it should be mandatory.

****ing people.......
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04-01-2018 , 10:24 AM
As much as I love having promo chasers at my table please dont do this. My room is also a time of deal room, but I have no idea who tracks it other than theres always a guy at every table that seems obsessed with watching the clock.
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04-01-2018 , 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by jonchillmatic
If the room is basing it on time at showdown, what is an acceptable amount of time to tank then? 2 minutes? 1 minute?

Not saying I condone it or would do it just wondering what everyone thinks is acceptable in this situation.
With the nutz...zero minutes. Not even for a grand. I have "loser" HHs like this before and I have lost them when the pot was too small , and I did not bet the magic amount to get a call. Etc.
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04-01-2018 , 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Carl_LaFong
Local casino recently ran a $250 every 20 minutes hh promo. While playing 1-2 nl With 5 minutes left in current qualifying period, I turn quad 6's on the button in a heads up pot when high hand at the monent was a straigh flush. There were 4 minutes left in the current qualifying period. Opponent goes AI for his last $100 into a $300 pot on the river. There were a minimum of 50 tables playing qualifying games at the time

Whats the opinions on attempting to tank before calling until the new hh qualifying period starts?
So the end of my story is I called the AI immediately and when hands were shown, literally over half the table said they would have tried to tank and wondered why I didnt. Being a very infrequent live player, I had to wonder a little bit if I misplayed the situation and thats why I made the post. I guess the comments at the table collectively spoke to the integrity of this particular group of 8 randoms quite eloquently.

And BTW, within 5 minutes of the next qualifying period, quad kings hit the board as HH and held up.
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04-01-2018 , 02:57 PM
I've known dealers who have been written up, suspended, and even fired for allowing this kind of garbage.

When I'm dealing and someone tries to pull this stunt I call "floor" instead of "high hand" and then I inform them that so-and-so tanked for 4 minutes before tabling their hand.

Then the floor will inform the player that they will not be going up on the board as the hand to beat.

I don't have a specific amount of time to guide me. I use the same judgement that I would if a player were to call time on a tanking player when the floor asks me, "Have they had sufficient time?"

FWIW, if you tank for less than a minute I'll typically let it slide.

On a related note, if a player says something like, "call me, I have a shot at the high hand" or "call me. I have the high hand but there's not enough money in the pot" then that's an automatic disqualification as well.

Not long ago, there was a straight flush on the board with about 5 minutes left. Player A hit quads on the flop and then told Player B, "I have quads. Help me stall and I'll give you 20 percent." That didn't fly, either.
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