Comment I responded to was that a single slot machine can out perform a poker table. It cannot.

Slot Machine Win Per Day depends on market and other factors but ranges from $50 to $250 (could be more in markets with very little competition).

Though from 2004, here is win per day data that was easy to google. hasn't changed much since then.

http://gaming.unlv.edu/abstract/slotwin.html#nv

Some figures from the Baltimore casinos...
Plus, slots are taxed at around 55% while poker and pits are taxed at 20% of gross.

So you're saying you can't force them to work overtime, but you can fire them if they refuse? That sounds crazy to me. I assume the dealers aren't unionized? (I am NOT looking for a debate on the merits of unions, I'm simply asking cuz every casino in BC (afaik) is unionized.)

I don't know if all BC casinos are unionized but there have been HUGE gains in the last few years for organized labour out west.

But in most markets dealers aren't unionized. Canada is making great progress towards unionization for gaming but south of the border not so much.

Most poker dealers are not union. I'm not saying they will be fired I'm saying that's the worst you that can happen. I would expect progressive discipline in most places

Just to be clear, since OP is talking about a casino in the UK:
There’s limited power to force employees to work overtime in the EU and you can’t discipline them for refusing to in a case like that. The casino also can only terminate an employee for cause (or for economical reasons, but that’s complicated) and not basically at will like in the US. Only from movies do Europeans know the situation of getting called into their mangers office to be terminated.

I don’t think that’s super relevant to this situation but just a general reminder that employer - employee relations work different in other parts of the world.

All of which are at the max or above the earlier claim

The two tables are in the pit. So only the dealers needed. I do appreciate it’s not just abc with Costs tho

Just finished having a decent chat with a long term worker there who tells me it’s cos they are genuinely short staffed. And because they share staff amoungst the games. The company values returns from blackjack and roulette first. So poker will only run if and when. He said they were 42 workers running the place 24:7 and now they are currently 24. So that explains the current massive inconsistency at the moment.

He did also mention that the table can take more than a £1000 on a good night at 1/1. There’s never a walk at the table. And the standard open that’s call will already hit the rake minimum. Lol

Completely understand marginal vs average returns. But it also applies to poker tables. If a casino is already at or near poker saturation, a single new additional slot certainly can have a marginal return better than an additional poker table. Or the opposite. It all depends on that casino and that market. But I suspect that it is easier to grow the slot market than the poker market.

Tx guys

What is the rake structure?

1/1
5% rake after pot hits £10 (standard open is £6)
Capped rake at £6

Im in las vegas... my company cant force overtime, and there is no penalty for doing 8 hours and leaving. (and yes i have seen games force broken for that)... and yes I am on the strip.

Your company chooses to not have a penalty for refusing overtime. That is their choice .... but they could have a different policy if they wanted.

Casinos make infinitely more money on table games than they do on poker. That's why casinos may make the decision to not run poker. Dealers at casinos makes less than minimum wage. They make the wages of other tipped professions, such as a waitress or bartender. So, if a casino is paying a dealer $6/hr to deal blackjack and makes a couple thousand dollars an hour, they are going to do that instead of running a poker table that may only make $200 max an hour.

The finance departments for casinos aren't stupid. They know where the money comes from, and the least profitable department in a casino is the poker room. Slots and table games make infinitely more money.

Depends on the location of the casino.

True. I'd imagine they grasp the marginal return versus average return issue discussed above.