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Originally Posted by I Like Poker
If you think the player may do that, simply ask the dealer to make the pot right before you expose your hand.
I don't think the horror stories you refer to are all that common, but the above is a simple way to avoid getting screwed.
Isn't the problem that when a player does this, it wasn't expected and now we have a problem? Which now means we need to ask the dealer to make the pot right every single time it happens to protect ourselves. Then I ask why allow it at all if that's the case?
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Originally Posted by I Like Poker
Everyone is getting hung up on the fact it's a 'single chip'
It isn't the number of chips that matters here.
If a player places chips over the line then he is either calling or raising.
If it isn't enough for a raise, then it's a call.
Here is a real floor call I had awhile back (2 years ago or maybe more now), you tell me what you think...
3 way action on the river. Player 1 bets $100 (a stack of $5 chips). Player 2 says "all in" and has a $500+ stack (doesn't move any chips forward). Player 3 tosses in a single $5 chip (also has a $500+ stack). Within the next 2-3 seconds, player 1 folds and player 2 tables his hand. Player 3 says "I didn't realize player 2 was still in the hand and didn't hear him say all in. I thought I was only calling the $100 bet by player 1 and would have folded if I knew player 2 went all in." Dealer calls for the floor (me) to decide what to do. Dealer says he heard him and player 1 and a player right next to player 3 said they also heard him. No one else gave their two cents. I later watched the video of this hand and the time between player 1's $100 bet and Player 3 tossing in a chip was less than 10 seconds and player 2 never moved a muscle other than his mouth.
You can tell me what you would do as the floor in this situation all you want, but the reality is that if we didn't allow tossing a single chip into the pot to be considered a call then this situation would never happen.