Mine was at Hard Rock Tampa too. Perhaps in your situation the chips were "in the pot" and then pulled back out by the offender? In my instance the guy had put his other chips (reds, greens and blacks) forward but the 1K chip he pocketed and hadn't been pushed forward.

Chips in the pot could be not considered his property/money any longer but chips not pushed into the pot and still in front of him may be viewed as a gambling debt that wasn't honored between 3rd parties?

The guy who got screwed lost about $815 in the spot, AND he was visiting from out of state. Plus I don't believe we have the ability to sue someone for gambling debts here in Florida, so he was pretty much SOL anyway.

A week later an officer showed up and they were talking to folks who were at the table that day, so I got pulled aside to give my input. The officer didn't believe he was going to be able to get any charges pressed against the guy who did it, although he did have camera footage plus the offenders info and had been in contact with him via phone concerning the incident.

So exasperating/infuriating that they treat that any different than if I put out a 1k bet at blackjack and then when I lose just pulling it back. OPE PRIVATE GAMBLING DEBT right? Lol no.

Anyone doing this should be criminally punished and civilly liable and permabanned.

WTH is that?

Because if you're playing blackjack you're stealing from the casino, which they have a right to protect themselves from. Unfortunately in a poker room where the "debt" is owed between third parties and the casino has no vested financial interest in the situation, my understanding is they legally cannot intervene to recover funds, lest they open themselves up to lawsuits. Thus their only recourse is to try to convince the offender to pay up and/or give them a perma-ban.

So if I reach in and take a 1k chip out of a pot in a cash game, who am I stealing from?

I don't disagree that your response matches what theirs would be, but it's based out of convenience for the casino rather than some impossibility to make the law work otherwise.

What if I just walked up to someone's stack and grabbed a handful of black chips? Oh well, so sorry, sue me?

The situation yes the chips had gone in the pot. The pot was split wrongly, and they went to video about 5 or 10 minutes later. They enforced the refund to the shorted player. I was pretty astounded. I also wondered what would have happened if villain had lost the chips in the interim.

If you reached out and took the money set aside for the rake, then you would have a problem with the casino and they will get up in your business.

The part with the omc repeating the line about having a stroke reminds me of f.dostoevskys sense of humor. Try reading The Gambler.

One of the Indian casinos in Michigan has it's own jail for 'offenders'. Not sure if there's too many folks in it very often.

Back when there was still cash on the table the Tribal Police went 'off the reservation' to chase a guy who had grabbed a bunch of bills off the poker table and took off. They backed off when speeds were too high for them. While they certainly had his plate on camera he would've gotten away with it a lot longer had he not still been passing cars on the right shoulder 20 miles from the casino with no one chasing after him! GL

Early 1980's at the Bell Club (After Commerce opened, but before the Bicycle) playing limit lowball at a player dealt, circular table a young woman walked in with an infant in a carrier and sets it down in the middle of the table - during a hand - and tells her husband she needs the money he's gambling with to feed the kid.

Yea, the guy left with her - after some argument - lol.

Surprised he didn't put the kid in the pot lol

That would have given him a ton of fold equity.


--klez

Why are some people so grossed out by people clipping their nails?
Of all the things people can do, this seems like no big deal.

Are you equally grossed out by your own nails?

I've never understood this.

Now, if he picked his nose, or was congested and hocking loogies and swallowing them, or picking dirt from under his nails and flicking it, or sticking his finger deep in his ears and then staring at his finger after . . . all much worse than just clipping his nails.

So long as it was his fingers he was clipping

chuckle.

Because I don't want soemeone else's dirty nails to hit me as I sit next to him. How this is not freaking you out is absolutely insane to me. Like, his dirty old nails are flying all over the floor and you would have absolutely no issues with it?

As for myself, yes I am grossed out if my nails are ever long or dirty and always trim them neatly (at home obviously). Is that not something that's expected?

Not the epitome of manners for certain. But if the “disgusting” things people do, this is pretty far down the list imo.

I was sitting at a poke table and this one dude sat down and after a few minutes loudly says angrily,"I don't know who needs to hear this, but they smell like ****!"

Dude next to him says"uh,I think it's you".

The guy on the other side agrees.

The guy gets pissed and goes to wipe his ass.

Still had a ****ty attitude when he got back, like we had called him out about it.

playing recently and a guy was eating a cheeseburger at the table.. got mustard on his hands and all over the chips as he called with some also landing in the middle of the table. I asked the dealer to grab different chips from his stack prior to scooping into the pot.. the guy looked at me like I was crazy.

I don't get how people are ok with eating with their hands while playing cards.. food on chips/cards and germs from chips/cards putting food in mouth.. just don't get it. People actually look at me weird when I use a fork when eating fries at the table.

me too, i'll ask them if they want grease and condiments all over the cards and chips that everyone is touching and people still don't get it

but don't change noles, you're the hero they don't deserve

I will cede the point that I am the opposite of a germophobe

Last summer when I was in Vegas, twice I moved tables while being a bit more than buzzed and a chip or two dropped into my drink . . . yep, didnt blink, finished the drink. Took a picture of the chip in the drink both times to remember it

I lived.

I'm not unclean, I shower and groom myself daily like a normal person,
I just dont worry about germs at all.
After 20+ years teaching over 2000 different students over the years, in an ancient Chicago high school, I couldnt catch a cold if I tried.
I could lick the doorknobs and not get sick (no, I wouldnt actually do this)

So, we're probably both on the extremes of this issue.
But I will insist that clipping nails (Assuming they are not gawd awful dirty) is not that big of a deal

I've often thought poker rooms lose out on a mint of cash by not buying millions of tombstones, and then selling them after cutting them into a hundred tiny bite-size pieces you can eat with a fork.

I'd be 100 pounds heavier if they made it that easy to eat a pizza at the table.

Same with a chicken quesadilla. Ugh, I'd never leave the room, ever.

Lol I had to get to the next paragraph to figure out why people would want to eat pieces of tombstones.

There's a post in this thread about a woman who regularly ate the black gunk that accumulates on chips.
I wish I could have witnessed that.

are you equally grossed out by your own boogers?