Tampa Hard rock 5-5plo w a $10rock

I 3b out of the sb w AQ52 double suited red cards…

3-4 way to flop.. KJ10 rainbow..

Hero check.. villain bets.. there are some folds.. hero calls pot is around $350

Turn 8 giving hero NFD + nuts..

Hero Checks. Villain snap Tables QQ22 🧐🤭😉🤗😆

There’s some chuckles… river blank

It’s on me I decide to flip over my Q52 to show villain 3/4 of the same hand.

Hero bets $100 into $350… villain tank calls.

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Didn’t think it was too angly… but another player at the table muttered something like “I think I know what happened there” insinuating villain was angling me by showing ott.

So did I get angled?

Villain was 55-75 white male.

I can’t decide if villain was super sharp and angling or if he was one of those clueless guys losing his marbles type. I only played 4 hours w this guy he seemed a little splashy and won a big pot at the lower game on a gambool spot when he was the 4th player all in and showed J4xx for top two on a 4 way all in pre w the board paired.

One previous hand we played I flopped middle set w QQxx on KQ8 and the board ran out K, 8 and I found a river fold to a single river bet and folded face up and he showed quads. To this day I can’t decide whether this guy was a sick angler or just a wizard. Another hand i made trip K w AKxx in a 3b pot where I’m mostly capped to trip Ks at best and he checked back 55 on a safe river on K54K2 which would indicate he wasn’t a wizard that he would lose value on a safe run out.

Hard to say as even in that level game players get confused and he may have thought it was the river and showdown. But otoh when he snap shows his hand ( which is against THR rules even heads up,) he still hasn't acted on the turn yet. So if you showed your hand and it was worse than his, he could have still bet. Or he could have been going for the sympathy angle of "I accidentally showed my hand and you're still going to bet the river?" to try and get to showdown for free. . Your OP never mentions if he eventually checked the turn before the dealer put out the river, which could open up additional angles.

Villain checked turn

OP would you be so kind as to tell us what the angle is.

Not sure it was an angle tbh… it’s a head scratcher

if it was an angle, then I want to be angled every hand. It seems ineffective.

Exposing your hand with action left is incredibly dumb nearly always and this isn't an exception. I guess you could say if villain's intent was to trick you into thinking it's showdown it's an angle but it's a stupid one. In this case his hand is hardly ever good and exposing just takes his ability to bluff some rivers away.

Villain's river call makes it obvious he's completely clueless and probably just mistakenly thought it was showdown before. This is a really, really bad call. Like what do you even x/c the flop with 4-ways after 3-betting pre that he beats? Unless he bet really small or something he beats literally nothing.

It is probably an attempted angle, but I don’t think it gives him an advantage. Now you can just play perfectly against him. You probably would have bet way more on the river if you didn’t know his hand.

Doesn't seem like an angle.

The vast majority of dumb stuff like this is not an attempted angle

yah i've seen this a bunch of times. the strange thing is usually the other guy just shows down with them.

Then the angle (if it was one) somehow succeeded.

Ya that could be the angle to attempt to get to showdown

Why? The guy wasn’t going to call a pot sized bet with second pair.

Minor clarification.. I 3b! Out of the sb… the flop I just check called

Youplayedyourself.gif. Showing part of your hand was silly. Not an angle. I would have potted the river.

First he has second trips (and bottom trips).

Second we don’t know what he would call. We know he called almost 1/3 pot. Full pot made be not. How about 2/3 pot? Hell he might think he is good. Maybe he really sucks and thinks he has a boat.

This is not an angle. An angle would require some interpretation of the rules to benefit the angler. Here he turned his hand over on the turn (apparently against the rules) without any potential gain of undoing anything you might do or had done.

Most likely (as was said above) he thought it was the river.

If he knew the river was to come then it is completely dumb. It reminds me of players in a 20/40 LHE game who would basically let me know that they were going to call my final bet in order to try to get me to not make the bet. Because I knew they would in fact call, I would only bet when I was strong and never bluff. I never understood what they were trying to accomplish.

Also this happened to me about 15 years ago in Aruba in a 20/40 LHE game: There was a mix of players (tourists and locals) with one of the locals a beautiful 20 something woman who was not particularly good. On the river, when HU, whether she was in position or not she would show her hand after the river came but before any action. As if there would be no betting. The only player who chose to bet after she did this was me. She would give me a long dirty look and then fold her marginal hand slowly. With everyone else she was flirty and gracious when she lost. I had her beat both times this happened so it didn't matter. But if she never did it, she would have ended up paying off at least some of the time.

I wonder how good she was. Based on what happened after the hand against you, I'd say she was doing it deliberately to get a free river shot at the pot.

Board is KJT8x. Villain has QQ22. Trips?

My bad. Confused OPs hole cards with flop and turn.

Nah, he has second pair and OP has a straight. I got confused too at first.

Don't think its an angle.