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Originally Posted by callipygian
In addition to it being contrary to the spirit of the rules, it's often counterproductive. The best players pay attention and quickly run through the hand, so you don't deprive anyone you want to deprive. The worst players find it unusual and ask "what did he have" and think you have something to hide so they take special notice of it (when they otherwise might have forgotten).
I think I'm a 'decent' player and actually try to pay more attention to their play than most other opponents, but I'm feeling more 'worst' in this case since I've played with both of them for years and not picked up on this and I pride myself on live tells/opponent behavior. Going over history in my head, one of them has been doing this 'forever' basically unnoticed. I believe it's a change in behavior for the other via influence/advice of the former.
It's possible that I didn't notice since I was paying attention already and I was lacks in my routine on that night. It's also possible that because they are both at the same table more often than previously that it's happening more often and I picked up on it.
I was playing at a casino over the weekend and noticed that at the 'reg heavy' PLO game that a lot of the players were doing the same thing ... turning back over their winners 'for the Dealer' ... prior to the pot being pushed. But at the 1/2 and 2/5 NL tables no one really cared about their cards 'lingering' out there exposed for all to see. I haven't really seen a pattern on PokerGo or LiveattheBike streams as of yet.
I don't really want to crack open a rules/procedure discussion on this but I don't really think that very many players, good or bad, have seen this as unusual and thus pay more attention at showdowns involving these players since it's never come up in discussion. As a player who probably spawns too much poker talk at the table I'm finding 'that' to be the unusual thing here, but perhaps I'm closer to that 'worst' category than I want to admit! GL