My local casino spreads an omaha high low game. The blinds are 2 and 4. The game is seems pretty good most of the time. About 5 people take a flop and everyone chases the low. The rake is very high. They take 3 dollars rake for the house and 1 dollar for the jackpot. I am wondering if this game is beatable. I know it sounds nuts to think that a game where 5 people take a flop is not beatable, but heres a few things to consider. Most players only chase the low, so flops that dont have a low possibility tend to be tiny. If there is a low someone always has some sort of low because everyone is chasing with just about any low. This leads to a lot of splitting.

I am making this post because I am wondering about the rake + tip recently. At least 6 dollars leave the table every hand that goes to the river. This is because the players are very good tippers. If its a split, the winners give at least 1 dollar to the dealer, which is right, but most give them 2-5 dollars. If someone scoops he gives at least 2 dollars to the dealer and most give them 3-5 dollars. So really at least 6 dollars leave the table, but 7-9 dollars leaving the table is not uncommon at all.

I will be honest I rarely go to this casino and play, but the last few times I have been to it I have been looking around and it seems no one at the table is ahead. Some catch heaters and get briefly ahead, but most just slowly get eaten up by the rake + tip and eventually rebuy. I am wondering now is this game winnable? Should I bother playing in it? I am starting to think the blinds might be to small to make this work.


To be fair the last 3 sessions I had I played pretty tight and lasted 12 hours each time, until I was eventually grinded down by the blinds. Since 12 hours had passed I would not invest a second buy in because I was usually too tired.

So what do you guys think?



Before you guys post the random comments ill do these:

tl:dr
you suck at poker!!!
omaha is lame!!
etc, etc.

Probably not beatable over the long haul if you tip a BB every time! Maybe not beatable period when a whole BB comes out of the big pots, too.

But at those limits, what are you hoping for, beyond some recreational fun?

rake is lower than usual if its 3+1..
but what jackpot is this? usually omaha games arent included in the bbj or high hand jackpots... o.o

What people call a BBJ drop is probably a promotions drop. Everything could be funded from that drop such as high hands, jackpots, cracked aces or splash pots if those are offered.

The room I deal in offers a BBJ for Omaha, a fixed $5K for quad tens or better beat.

With the rake and the blinds being 2/4, it's definitely beatable.

Being concerned with profit, you shouldn't be tipping as unethical as it is. If you want to beat the game, do every little thing favorable to yourself to do so.

does the omaha drop still feed the total BBJ pot while recieving a fixed payout or is it a totally separate pot?

im just curious is it a 4/8 game? OP mentions the blinds but not the betting. a 4/8 game iwth a 3$ rake is beatable.

ofc tipping is a horrible immoral practice... right up there with clubbing baby seals...

Oops. Meant that the other way around.

Tipping is ethical but terribly unprofitable.

There is a BBJ. Its quad 5's beaten.

Its a 4/8 game, but the rake is 4, 3 to the house and 1 to the BBJ. There is also the good tipping. The good tipping happens because its a small town and everyone knows each other and runs into each other while going around town. If you dont tip the dealers well and then see them at the local walmart its kind of weird I imagine.

I talk to everyone and its fun to talk to people that are usually 2 and in some cases 3 times my age. I just wish I could be sure that I wasnt going to donate to the casino everytime.

a rake of 3+1 is better than anywhere, certainly beatable, the tipping makes no difference because this is limit, very rare for people to be all in.

3+1 is low rake? Wow I thought we were getting screwed here. What's the typical rake where you play 4/8 omaha high low?

It astounds me that there are people who think that no matter what the rake is, it's high. They might as well jack it up since people are going to complain even if they have it the best in the country. 3 dollar rake for omaha/8 and it's cried about. Give me a break.

I 100% agree with this. Our 2/4 limit game at TS rakes 3+1 and its very beatable, due to people calling two bets cold on the river normally with low pairs.

OK, never mind. I thought this game was 2/4, but you are talking about 4/8. Then, with that rake, I'd say it's beatable, assuming you understand proper O8 strategy.
And definitely, do NOT cry about the rake amount! That's a decent deal.
And I respectfully disagree with a previous poster; if you can't afford to tip the dealers, you shouldn't be playing.