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02-22-2018 , 02:30 PM

ubiquitous

adept

Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 831

1/3 cash, V & H both get it all-in preflop.

H doesn't hit anything on the board & tables AK and says "Ace high"

V tables AK as well and says "Ace high"

Dealer is about to split the pot but pauses & says to V "Hey, you have a flush". Nobody says anything. V gets entire pot.

I didn't complain too much bc V did have the A

with 4 of them on the board.

I know in most rooms its the cards determine the winner, but I've never had a dealer (as opposed to another player) be the one to point out the error.

Do I have a reason to be upset? Are dealers obligated to correct mistakes?

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02-22-2018 , 02:37 PM

GiantBuddha

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 4,909

Cards speak. What a player says when tabling their hand is irrelevant here. Not only should the dealer recognize the flush and push the pot to your opponent, you are obligated to point out the error yourself if you spot it. Once your opponent tables a hand that beats you, you're basically stealing money if you accept half of the pot that you know doesn't belong to you.

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02-22-2018 , 04:12 PM

EvilGreebo

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Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 3,526

It is explicitly spelled out in the "Cards Speak" rule that EVERYONE has an obligation to make sure that the pot goes to the rightful winner(s) including the dealer, floor, players not in the hand, players in the hand, cocktail waitresses and the guy playing roulette who can't tell a straight from 3 of a kind.

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02-22-2018 , 04:18 PM

Aurora Tom

adept

Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 1,167

You mean the dealer pushed the pot to the rightful winner? Shame on him/her!!!

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02-22-2018 , 04:39 PM

Suit

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 4,744

A little harsh in the responses, but they are correct.

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02-22-2018 , 05:44 PM

ubiquitous

adept

Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 831

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Originally Posted by Suit

A little harsh in the responses, but they are correct.

I've learned that getting some sarcasm shoved up your butt is the price you pay for the great advice and education you get here.

As long as I'm careful not to sit down for an hour or two afterwards, it's worth it.

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02-22-2018 , 06:42 PM

chillrob

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Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 20,925

You've really never had the dealer read the winning hand? That should be happening every hand you play.

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02-22-2018 , 10:04 PM

Lordkjun

adept

Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 746

The only time the dealer would be out of line is in a home game/room with a specific rule that players declare the hand.

I played a game in lockup....dealers choice Hold em cards speak/omaha player declares. Most omaha hands ended in fights. Cards speak is the best way.

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02-23-2018 , 12:05 AM

branch0095

adept

Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 928

This is how a normal hand should play out at showdown. The players tabled their hand, the dealer declared the winning hand then pushed the pot to the winner. The only reason this is even a question is because the dealer mis-read the hands at first, then corrected himself/herself.

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02-23-2018 , 12:26 AM

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Quadstriker

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Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 15,333

This post has to be a joke.

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02-23-2018 , 06:05 AM

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CupOfSalt

journeyman

Join Date: Nov 2015 Posts: 387

Cards speak, dealer is supposed to read the hands correctly even if player misreads their own hand.

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02-23-2018 , 07:53 AM

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albedoa

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 5,392

I have to reiterate that if this is a rare or surprising occurrence, then you have a much bigger problem. The dealer should be facilitating hand reading at every showdown.

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02-23-2018 , 08:36 AM

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Phil9

old hand

Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 1,608

Once hands are fully turned over and tabled, it is the dealer’s job to determine the winner/winners of the pot based on the cards shown in order to maintain the integrity of the game. It is not their job to aid a player in a possible angleshoot because the other player misread their hand.

The dealer should not happen to see a player’s holdings in seat 1-2 and 9-10 and urge them to then table their hand though.

This is all basic stuff.

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