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An unorthodox ruling by the floor, to say the least.. An unorthodox ruling by the floor, to say the least..

12-15-2018 , 01:24 PM
Just saw this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjRRyzpiKwU

I have no further information besides what is in the video, I was not there. But this seems like one of the most bizarre floor rulings that I have ever seen.

Am I wrong, does this make sense to anyone in any other casino?
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12-15-2018 , 02:04 PM
I guess the "logic" is that you preserve 40% of the (final) board.

But at the expense of the structure of the game (ie 3 card Flop followed by 1 card Turn and 1 card River).

But it is

a) Indian casino
b) State of Washington

so I guess it might make sense to the Floor.

Doesn't make sense to me.
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12-15-2018 , 02:42 PM
if i am seeing it correctly all action was complete preflop if that is the case then it is almost irrelevant . (tho there is a guy talking about seeing a deuce???) if all action was complete preflop then any random cards are fine. Big IFS everywhere.
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12-15-2018 , 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by TS2
if i am seeing it correctly all action was complete preflop .
No. Not even close.
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12-15-2018 , 03:08 PM
what street was the 75 to call on? there was only 1 card revealed.... its a bit confusing.
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12-15-2018 , 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by TS2
what street was the 75 to call on? there was only 1 card revealed.... its a bit confusing.
Apparently Flop was early.
Preflop action then complete.
Early Flop put to the side.
Burn and put out Turn. One card. A 9.
Betting round. (beginning of video).
Guy says "all in" (which he can't do since it is Pot Limit), but bets $75. One call, lots of complaining.

Burn and put out River. One card.
Betting round with just two cards on the "board"

Shuffle early Flop in with stub.
(Not sure if they burned) Put out three cards.
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12-15-2018 , 04:00 PM
Haha that is something special.
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12-15-2018 , 05:12 PM
I understand why the 3 flop cards were shuffled back in before the river (or in this case the flop) was dealt at the end. Its the same reason why a premature turn is shuffled back in for the river (to try to equalize the overall chances of the exposed card showing up).

However, the flop should obviously have been dealt first. If the idea was to preserve the original turn that could have been accomplished by setting aside the next 2 cards off the top of the deck. Personally I would have shuffled in the exposed flop cards before dealing a new river.

In any case, creating a new game "reverse hold'em" is totally insane. Though I wish I could have been there to play it.
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12-15-2018 , 06:05 PM
"Preserving the natural board" is one of the dumbest things when it comes to rulings. Newsflash, cards are ****ing random. You could wash the entire deck all over the table and have a drink server pick out 5 random cards to be the board for all I care. The fact that this was done just to preserve a natural turn and river is ridiculous. If they were really dead set on having a natural turn and river, just put those off to the side, then reshuffle the remaining cards and put out the flop first. Awful floor.

And the guys crying about wanting their money back, stfu
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12-15-2018 , 09:14 PM
I don't want to play there.
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12-17-2018 , 04:09 PM
Pretty crazy ... Understand the desire to preserve natural Turn and River but they didn't seem to care about when they showed up during the hand anymore! I'm assuming the Flop was exposed before the video started ...

At best (worst) if I wanted to preserve these cards then I would've put them out with a new 'other' Flop card .. post shuffle ... Then burn and turn both the Turn and River 'as normal' from the reshuffled stub.

The other scenario, which we all agree is asking for trouble, would be to put the Turn and River out there face down and then put out a new Flop post shuffle.

I'm not sure that I could've come up with this scenario if you asked me to list 5 ways to resolve of this spot. GL
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12-18-2018 , 04:18 PM
Looked and sounded like the biggest complainer lucked out by the premature flop. He claims he saw a deuce and would have flopped a set. The 9 on the turn beats him but yet he is still complaining. He wanted to see the rest of the flop so I am assuming only the window card was exposed and he was curious if he may have flopped quads maybe?
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12-18-2018 , 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Suit
Looked and sounded like the biggest complainer lucked out by the premature flop. He claims he saw a deuce and would have flopped a set. The 9 on the turn beats him but yet he is still complaining.
He only "lucked out" if the guy with 99xx would have called a pot sized bet on the Flop.
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12-19-2018 , 11:09 AM
They were basically dealing a different game than those people sat down to play.
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12-29-2018 , 10:19 AM
I tried watching the video, but only made it 20 seconds before I closed it.
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