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10-02-2008 , 07:56 PM
Hello, just this week I found a nearby poker hall that hosts tournament for charity. This Sunday I 4-way chopped first place in a 125dollar buy in tournament. I believe 25 dollars went to the rake and charity. The top 4 players received $2150. So I ended up making $2025. How much of my win should I give the dealers for tip? Whats the standard amount?
10-02-2008 , 08:15 PM
The larger the amount won typicaly the smaller the percentage gets. At those stakes I would tip 200 to the dealers. 10%
10-02-2008 , 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by cakeaz
The larger the amount won typicaly the smaller the percentage gets. At those stakes I would tip 200 to the dealers. 10%
10 % ??????????

waiters get 15-20%

I tip 20% of my tournament cashes

(but i dont cash that much)
10-02-2008 , 08:23 PM
They don't like tipping posts around here, per the sticky. There is a good thread here:

http://archives1.twoplustwo.com/show...68&page=0&vc=1
10-02-2008 , 08:36 PM
10% is really the upper bound on "standard" tournament tipping.
I usually tip on a sliding scale from 10% to 3%, with a lower % for larger cashes.
I had a $2000 cash once, and tipped 6%, or $120.
10-02-2008 , 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Jay36489
They don't like tipping posts around here, per the sticky. There is a good thread here:

http://archives1.twoplustwo.com/show...68&page=0&vc=1
who is "they" and why dont they like them.

poker is a game of money

tips account for 10-40% of a players expenses.

why cant this be discussed?

I am new to 2+2 but seems like mods are sort of like supreme beings, who make unilateral decisions on what is good and bad and then force their will on others.

I understand if someone breaks a rule (e.g. dont say u will kill people) and I appreciate what the mods do to keep us all in bounds, but are you telling there is 2+2 rule that discussing tipping is not allowed?

and if there is no rule against it, how on earth is tipping not appropriate discussion for B&M. and what would give a mod the right to unillaterally censor such a discussion?
10-02-2008 , 08:40 PM
Well it is right there in the sticky that you are supposed to read before posting. Also, I was not trying to enforce rules, just point out a thread that would help.
10-02-2008 , 08:56 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by cakeaz
The larger the amount won typicaly the smaller the percentage gets. At those stakes I would tip 200 to the dealers. 10%
And I can't get a buck from someone who gets $180,000. Life sucks.
10-02-2008 , 09:19 PM
Lol, sorry Niki Jiki. I gave 200 dollars , much to my disliking I watched while the other 3 tipped 50 dollars each..........wtf? I assumed the standard would be about 10% of my winnings. I guess it's a tough economy and everyones hurting for cash nowadays.
10-02-2008 , 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Niki Jiki
And I can't get a buck from someone who gets $180,000. Life sucks.
LOL, free cruise for 10 hours work no good.
10-02-2008 , 10:41 PM
10% ??!?? lolol, god thank jesus you're rich Armen.

1-2% depending on how you think the event was handled (maybe 3% at max)

Maybe more if it was winner take all, but remember other people are going to tip as well.

2% of 2k is $40 which is okay.

Also I'd take into account how long the tournament took. Did it take 2 hours? (5 hrs?) Do you know if you tip the dealer, the floor is getting a cut out of it? Is it getting pooled?

Dealers do not deserve $50/hr for a simple task. Hold'em is one of the most simplest games to deal and to learn the rules, if not the simplest.

Also, this brings me on another point of tipping in a cash game (more specifically a NL/PL cash game). Because you feel obligated to tip on every pot you win, that starts to add up. Let's say you win 2-3 pots an hour (small ones like 20-25bb) so you're tipping $2-3 (or more) an hour, then when you get AI with 100+bb you're losing the amount you and your opponet have tipped the dealer. So this can cost you $10-15 per AI in the long run.

Honestly, Why is it so hard for casino's to pay the certified dealers a decent wage and then deduct on complains (i.e. misdeals/confusions/pot being wrong/unprofessionalism).

Start at $20-25/hour and work from there.

Last edited by Sykes; 10-02-2008 at 10:58 PM.
10-02-2008 , 11:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Sykes
10% ??!?? lolol, god thank jesus you're rich Armen.

1-2% depending on how you think the event was handled (maybe 3% at max)

Maybe more if it was winner take all, but remember other people are going to tip as well.

2% of 2k is $40 which is okay.

Also I'd take into account how long the tournament took. Did it take 2 hours? (5 hrs?) Do you know if you tip the dealer, the floor is getting a cut out of it? Is it getting pooled?

Dealers do not deserve $50/hr for a simple task. Hold'em is one of the most simplest games to deal and to learn the rules, if not the simplest.

Also, this brings me on another point of tipping in a cash game (more specifically a NL/PL cash game). Because you feel obligated to tip on every pot you win, that starts to add up. Let's say you win 2-3 pots an hour (small ones like 20-25bb) so you're tipping $2-3 (or more) an hour, then when you get AI with 100+bb you're losing the amount you and your opponet have tipped the dealer. So this can cost you $10-15 per AI in the long run.

Honestly, Why is it so hard for casino's to pay the certified dealers a decent wage and then deduct on complains (i.e. misdeals/confusions/pot being wrong/unprofessionalism).

Start at $20-25/hour and work from there.

The fact is the dealers dont make 20-25 an hour from the casino, they make 5.15 an hour. I love playing live and I will tip the dealers acordingly as so we can keep quality dealers for live play.


You can tip what you like but I for one value quality dealers and will continue to support them.
10-02-2008 , 11:28 PM
Harrington tips near nothing. Harrington is right on all. Ergo tip near nothing.
10-03-2008 , 12:28 AM
2-3%. 10% is insane and would make just about any good player -EV.

**** Harrington, he's a douche. When I chop a $125 tourney for 2k, if I leave $0 for the dealers, I'd expect to get rolled in the parking lot by a dealer.
10-03-2008 , 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Sykes

Honestly, Why is it so hard for casino's to pay the certified dealers a decent wage and then deduct on complains (i.e. misdeals/confusions/pot being wrong/unprofessionalism).

Start at $20-25/hour and work from there.


If the casinos paid $20-25/hour they'd have to raise the rake and the tournament juice. Similarly, paying that much for waitstaff would raise the prices on the menu.

If they deducted for mistakes they'd likely break federal law and open themselves up to a bunch of lawsuits.
10-03-2008 , 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by adsho
who is "they" and why dont they like them.

.....and if there is no rule against it, how on earth is tipping not appropriate discussion for B&M. ?
Because the threads degenerate into flamewars between the "never tip the *&%^$- Dealer a penny" crowd and the "tip 25% on a tournament win and $10 per pot in cash games" crowd.
10-03-2008 , 12:44 PM
I don't know what state ur in, but $5.15 an hour base would be outstanding in NJ. In Atlantic City, I get $4.30 base pay no benefits, and they just cut me to 3 days a week. Now granted i don't have any time with the company, maybe with more time I would have a higher base pay, maybe not.
10-03-2008 , 01:34 PM
If they start docking pay for mistakes, dealers will be motivated to try to cover up and hide mistakes rather than call the floor and get it properly sorted out. That's a terrible idea.
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