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Tipping Ettiquite on BBJ Tipping Ettiquite on BBJ

07-20-2009 , 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by UATrewqaz
Tipping on the BBJ is insane.

If you hit a jackpot on the slot machine would you find the nearest casino employee and tip them x% of it?

Because that's basically what you are doing.

It's a completely random "jackpot" type event that the dealer has nothing to do with. You're tipping them on most of the pots you win for good service already.

Why is the BBJ so special? I mean, guys playing high stakes win 10K+ pots all the time, do they tip the dealer hundreds of dollars out of every hand?

If you're a generous person and you won't miss the money, tip whatever you want.

If you're tipping away hundreds or thousands of dollars you legimitately want or need, you are just a fish at life.
Your analogy is slightly off but i do agree with you. For me, $100 represents a lot of money because I am in College and don't have a ton of money, for a Businessman playing poker for the ****s of it, it isn't. So for me tipping $100 means a lot more than the businessman. I think you have to tip something, but never more than you feel comfortable.
10-20-2009 , 08:57 AM
wondering if i could get some input on what is a reasonable tip for a dealer who deals a bad beat jackpot. would like to hear from players and dealers.



bbj was 72k fwiw and my table share was $3618 ( we were 7 handed )

what should i have tipped, also what should the bigger shares have tipped?

the big shares were 36k and 18k

Last edited by Rapini; 10-20-2009 at 10:44 AM. Reason: edited thread title
10-20-2009 , 09:10 AM
You'll get answers all over the board. Some will be generous and say give them a chunk, some will say "the dealer didn't do anything, etc."

Personally, I think it's the loser's (biggest share) obligation to do most of the tipping. If I were you (small share) I'd probably throw the dealer $100, which is ~3%, or $200 if I know them, etc. I'd expect that the 36K would give at least $1K and maybe more, and the 18K maybe $300-$500. I've seen those sorts of percentages before and the staff seemed to be happy - certainly if they "expect" more than that my opinion is that they're being unreasonable.

Still, face it, everyone at the table has a hell of a lot more than they had a minute ago. Share the wealth a bit - good karma.
10-20-2009 , 09:15 AM
If it's me dealing, everyone should tip 20% + $20

---> me <---

al
10-20-2009 , 09:35 AM
3% is standard.
10-20-2009 , 10:23 AM
110% for being so lucky...
10-20-2009 , 10:37 AM
argg...again?

For a table share that sweet toss a c-note. If I'm dealing $100 from each of the table shares would make me more than happy and be much appreciated.
10-20-2009 , 12:03 PM
may be i am an *******, but i am only going to tip $25. $50 if i like the dealer.

Last edited by Rapini; 10-20-2009 at 12:08 PM. Reason: profanity filter dodging
10-20-2009 , 12:35 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by UATrewqaz
Tipping on the BBJ is insane.

If you hit a jackpot on the slot machine would you find the nearest casino employee and tip them x% of it?

Because that's basically what you are doing.

It's a completely random "jackpot" type event that the dealer has nothing to do with. You're tipping them on most of the pots you win for good service already.

Why is the BBJ so special? I mean, guys playing high stakes win 10K+ pots all the time, do they tip the dealer hundreds of dollars out of every hand?

If you're a generous person and you won't miss the money, tip whatever you want.

If you're tipping away hundreds or thousands of dollars you legimitately want or need, you are just a fish at life.
Well thought out. Reasonable.
10-20-2009 , 12:53 PM
well i guess i did ok, giving a little more then 5%. $200 tip on the $3618 table share. the other table share getters and i agreed upon this away from the table. the 18k share tipped a generous 1000, but after seeing the biggest share tip only 300, the 18k share kicked in a xtra 300.

i also tipped 13$ at the cage when cashing out. i normally give them $1, after i couldnt decide if the 13 was to much or not enough. my total cashout was 4513, so any more was out of the question at the time, but looking back im not too sure.

we ordered drinks right after. took over an hour to get a cocktail waitress and get 5 drinks delivered. we werent to impressed with that, the 1 time i have had slow drink service in this poker room. bad timing for her, because im sure she missed out on some cash.
10-20-2009 , 12:57 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by UATrewqaz
Tipping on the BBJ is insane.

If you hit a jackpot on the slot machine would you find the nearest casino employee and tip them x% of it?

Because that's basically what you are doing.
Proper etiquette if you hit a slot machine jackpot is to tip the slot attendant x% of the jackpot.
10-20-2009 , 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by ThePokerFink2
Proper etiquette if you hit a slot machine jackpot is to tip the slot attendant x% of the jackpot.
Etiquette is the norm in a cultural.

Sharing good fortune with family and good friends is the cultural norm everywhere I have been. Taking even a small chance on denying them by sharing your good fortune with a stranger instead is not the cultural norm anywhere in the US. It is a strange idea.

What culture were you referring to?
10-20-2009 , 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnWilkes
Etiquette is the norm in a cultural.

Sharing good fortune with family and good friends is the cultural norm everywhere I have been. Taking even a small chance on denying them by sharing your good fortune with a stranger instead is not the cultural norm anywhere in the US. It is a strange idea.

What culture were you referring to?
Ah I forgot people don't tip in USA, I must have been thinking of...

oh wait...
10-20-2009 , 01:56 PM
Tipping's over-rated & sometimes I get tired of everyone having their hands out for a piece of MY money.
10-20-2009 , 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by ThePokerFink2
Ah I forgot people don't tip in USA, I must have been thinking of...

oh wait...


This is the best arguement you have for giving strangers a large sum of money and possibly denying a friend or family member in the future because of this gift to person who is of no importance in your life.



These large tips, over $100 let alone $1,000+, are not required by ettiquettte in US or anywhere else. They are foolish at best. Now do not misunderstand, if I was giving one, I would take it quickly before the fool gave it away to some other undeserving person.
10-20-2009 , 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by ThePokerFink2
Ah I forgot people don't tip in USA, I must have been thinking of...

oh wait...
In the case of a slot machine jackpot payout what service are they providing you? Paying you money? I'm not paying someone a % to pay me what i'm owed.
10-24-2009 , 05:11 PM
I usually give the dealer a smaller tip, but throw some tips around to the rest of the poker room (the waitresses, the girls running the board, etc.). Most people who hit the JP at casinos obviously aren't professionals and don't realize statisics and probability. They think that the reason that you hit a JP is because the dealer dealt it, so you should tip them a lot for dealing it. You were lucky enough to have them as a dealer, so you should reward them for giving you this good luck. As more informed players, we know the JP is going to hit every certain amount of hands (every 100,000 hands is common with some casino JP standards) in the long run regardless of who's dealing.

Theoretically, the jackpot should be a break even proposition in the long run. You get $1 dropped every 9 or 10 hands and get it back in big chunks with some seriously high variance. It doesn't work that way though. The casinos use money dropped for the jackpot for other promotions (aces cracked, money added to tournaments, high hands, bigger JP in graveyards, etc). So, you really are losing money in the long run just by having a JP unless you are taking advantage of all the promos. It's basically a casino scam - a creative way for them to make more money by getting free advertising on promos.

No freakin way do I give 10% of a JP to a dealer. I'll give 2-3% to the dealer and then 2-3% (total) to other people around the cardroom who do their job well. The dealer had no more to do with the JP than the waitress or the board person.
10-24-2009 , 05:15 PM
I agree, i wouldnt tip ny were near 10 $ maybe 1 % w..e the case ill buy a round of drinks for all poker room patrons hhehe
10-24-2009 , 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by mrmikejohnson
I usually give the dealer a smaller tip, but throw some tips around to the rest of the poker room (the waitresses, the girls running the board, etc.). Most people who hit the JP at casinos obviously aren't professionals and don't realize statisics and probability. They think that the reason that you hit a JP is because the dealer dealt it, so you should tip them a lot for dealing it. You were lucky enough to have them as a dealer, so you should reward them for giving you this good luck. As more informed players, we know the JP is going to hit every certain amount of hands (every 100,000 hands is common with some casino JP standards) in the long run regardless of who's dealing.

Theoretically, the jackpot should be a break even proposition in the long run. You get $1 dropped every 9 or 10 hands and get it back in big chunks with some seriously high variance. It doesn't work that way though. The casinos use money dropped for the jackpot for other promotions (aces cracked, money added to tournaments, high hands, bigger JP in graveyards, etc). So, you really are losing money in the long run just by having a JP unless you are taking advantage of all the promos. It's basically a casino scam - a creative way for them to make more money by getting free advertising on promos.

No freakin way do I give 10% of a JP to a dealer. I'll give 2-3% to the dealer and then 2-3% (total) to other people around the cardroom who do their job well. The dealer had no more to do with the JP than the waitress or the board person.
If your end of the jackpot was $20,000 then 2% would be $400.
Nuts to that big a tip.
10-24-2009 , 10:00 PM
God you are a bunch of miserable people. At least 5%, more if it's a dealer that I know/like.
10-25-2009 , 10:47 AM
Here is the proper solution for all tipping situations in the future:

Write down the name of the dealer, don't tip anything yet.

Come to 2+2 and start a thread to ask for good tipping advice. We love to give advice, yes yes we do.

Go back to the casino and tip the dealer (when you find him/her) the amount you have determined is the correct amount based on the advice you have received here.

Report back to 2+2 and thank us for the advice and pass on any comments that the dealer may have said. We like to hear that stuff.
10-25-2009 , 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by waxie
God you are a bunch of miserable people. At least 5%, more if it's a dealer that I know/like.
Lets assume a $50,000 BBJ and a typical split in AC of 50% to the losing hand, 25% to the winning hand and 25% split among the other eight players. Those eight players are getting $1,562.50 each.

If everyone gives 5% to the dealer he gets $2,500. The eight players net $1,484 after tipping 5%.

Feel free to call me a miserable person, but I'll never be pressured into a situation where a dealer will get $1k more than me out of a BBJ just for pitching the cards.
10-25-2009 , 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by cockpit
Lets assume a $50,000 BBJ and a typical split in AC of 50% to the losing hand, 25% to the winning hand and 25% split among the other eight players. Those eight players are getting $1,562.50 each.

If everyone gives 5% to the dealer he gets $2,500. The eight players net $1,484 after tipping 5%.

Feel free to call me a miserable person, but I'll never be pressured into a situation where a dealer will get $1k more than me out of a BBJ just for pitching the cards.
I agree!
But does the floor have to get a piece too?
My answer to % or amount is depends, depends, depends.
But hell no do I give thousands.

One time I won a pot , I told the dealer to flip over a card. What that card was his tip. He flipped a nine, I gave him 10$ anyways (as was always my intention) pot was like $500.
[ x ] generous?

It was my flopped straight flush, over the "nut" flush, over a set.
10-26-2009 , 01:29 PM
Just for reference on the actual costs of the BBJ, I think Bart Hansen said once that in 2 or 3 years of playing at Commerce he's paid about $50K to the BBJ. And surely any once or twice a week player is going to have paid at least a grand or two minimum towards it.

So just more LOL at tipping anything big on money that the casino already took 25% off the top from the BBJ, which is your money in the first place, and then you give another big chunk of it back to the casino by tipping huge when you hit it. Just sooooo much fail imo.

Mark
10-26-2009 , 01:38 PM
4% is pretty standard, from what i've heard.

      
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