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Originally Posted by bolt2112
What room do you play in where the tables are 10-handed? Most rooms are 9-handed and increasingly many are moving to 8-handed.
What room do you play in where dealers don't get breaks? 2 tables and a break is common in most markets.
At $4 per player per down, dealers aren't making $80/hour but are closer to $43/hour.
I never said 10-handed. 2(9 * 4) = $72. I'm sure with the casino taking $120+ per hour off each table they can contribute $8/hr to make the $80 figure I came up with.
But... do you deserve $80 an hour? Do you deserve $43 an hour? Those are genuine questions - I am not insinuating that you do not deserve it - I just want to know your honest opinion of your worth and/or what you think the fair market value is for the job.
Also, you take breaks in a busy room after 1 hour of dealing? I have never heard of that. Are your downs 45m instead of 30m? I have heard dealers griping about doing 8 downs in a row.
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Originally Posted by checkraisdraw
Agreed. And most dealers are not making that. 43/hr is probably top .1% of dealers in public rooms (not private games)
1 out of 1000 full-time dealers average $43 per hour? How much are the other 999 making?
If one brings up dealer wages in this thread, it is met with "The room pays me $7.15 an hour!!!" and when you ask what his or her average hourly is per year in tips, it's either met with an honest, "I'm not going to tell you that" or a dishonest, "Eh, I really don't know." If they were averaging $10 an hour in tips, they would be letting you know.
One dealer used to give us easy money in the $30/$60 stud8/razz game back in the day before the boom. Magically, after he gave up on poker and stuck to dealing, he was able to move out of his parents' house and buy a new car and seemed quite content with the extra money, time, and less stress he had.
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Originally Posted by JayKon
I don't tip a dealer to "pitch cards". He gets tipped for running the game and getting bets right ... along with a few other skills, and I do mean skills.
I take offense at your low opinion of what a skilled dealer does.
Hey man, I already said I tip stellar dealers extremely well, even if I don't drag a pot, so spare me the indignant routine. Too bad there are fewer than 10 of them in several states combined. But these are technical games that most dread dealing except for basically them, and the cream of that crop are sharp as fcuk.
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Originally Posted by JayKon
I take offense at your low opinion of what a skilled dealer does.
Sorry boyo, but running the game and keeping the pot right
is babysitting. No doubt there are those who can't do it, but those are shitty dealers that should be working in a different career but never do so because you keep feeding them.
Being able to control the table and keep the pot right are the bare minimum requirements of the job. Somewhere along the way it has become thought of as being a really good dealer, and it's the tipping model that perpetuates it.