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12-22-2021 , 12:20 AM
$50 -$100
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12-22-2021 , 12:25 AM
100-0

I hate most promos, though.
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12-22-2021 , 06:46 AM
$50
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12-22-2021 , 10:06 AM
What's fair is what the 'man in the mirror' can live with. It may be difficult to search in a thread this size but there is previous discussion on this talking point.

On the one side you have the mindset that 'this is the Player's money to begin with, why tip?'

As humans we typically want to celebrate our 'good fortune' with others. And in doing so a Player may choose to buy a round and do something for the Dealer.

A 3rd option would be .. What do you tip on a $2K pot? Have you ever won a $2k pot? In retrospect, this is the equivalent to a HU $4k pot since you usually have chips at risk. Also, what was the size of the pot you actually won? I've seen a guy ship the whole pot to the Dealer and just keep the $2k.

If you search for my posts in this thread you will see that I tip a percentage of 'profit' at the end of a down/session .. not by the hand. I use a sliding scale anywhere from 1-10%.

But I also think there's a cap involved somewhere based on the 'event' and the room/Dealer relationship as you suggest. I'm not going to tip 10% of a BBJ, it will depend on the amount of the score.

Finally back to your exact spot .. For a $2K HH I'm probably going to tip a min of $25 and a max of $100.

I once 'tipped' a Player $25 of my score since he had just gotten up from the table .. so 'he' changed the cards, which allowed me to hit the hand. (I gave the Dealer $50 on that one)


All that being said, we can't decide your opinion on the difference between winning a hand and winning a promo for you. There are players who view any chips coming their way as a time to 'celebrate' and there are others who differentiate how the chips made it their way.

Out on the floor, the slot attendants make hay when slot winners tip them for helping with the payout process. They probably share those tips, but what had they done for you before you hit the mark? Again, people like to share their good fortune as their choosing. GL
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12-22-2021 , 03:05 PM
At least 100 min. $25 is really a slap in the face to the dealer tbh. People who win $300 high hands tip min. 25/30.
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12-22-2021 , 03:34 PM
If I saw someone give a dealer $50 for a 2k promotional win I would think that is a bit generous. I think $25-$50 is a reasonable range for the $2k promotion.

I think tipping $30 on a $300 promotional would be extremely generous. I think $5-$10 sounds about right.

Personally I would tip less on a promotional win vs if I won the exact same amount from a pot/tourney win since I play on weekends and night where you typically see less promotional payouts. If the casino is funneling money away from people like me who are casual players who play on the weekends to give to their regulars who play during the week don't come to me asking for a generous tip when most promotions are massively -EV for someone like me (this would only apply to casinos like my home casino that runs all kinds of promotions during the week and almost no promotions on the weekends). If I retire and become a reg who plays during the week I would like start tipping more for promotional wins than a normal pot or tourney win.

Last edited by bahbahmickey; 12-22-2021 at 03:40 PM.
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12-22-2021 , 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Playbig2000
At least 100 min. $25 is really a slap in the face to the dealer tbh. People who win $300 high hands tip min. 25/30.
Come on, it’s a hand of poker. Minimum 5%? Do you tip 5% of the profit off of every pot?
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12-22-2021 , 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by checkraisdraw
Come on, it’s a hand of poker. Minimum 5%? Do you tip 5% of the profit off of every pot?
What does that have to do with anything? This isn't the same as winning a $2K pot, it's a bonus - free money on top of the pot we won (yeah, I know, it comes from "our" money).

You can go ahead and throw the dealer $20 if you prefer, it's your choice, but from the dealer's perspective they will feel like they got stiffed, that I can assure you.
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12-22-2021 , 11:59 PM
thanks all -- the consenses from my poker friends seems to be $50-100.

there are arguments that can be made for more or less based the $2k being bonus/ "found money"
as well as if the dealer's a good dealer and whether or not it's your regular room

yeah - thread is way too long - so wasn't able to find answers to exact spot... but appreciate the feedback.
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12-23-2021 , 12:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Playbig2000
What does that have to do with anything? This isn't the same as winning a $2K pot, it's a bonus - free money on top of the pot we won (yeah, I know, it comes from "our" money).

You can go ahead and throw the dealer $20 if you prefer, it's your choice, but from the dealer's perspective they will feel like they got stiffed, that I can assure you.
It’s not free money, it’s the players’ money. Also I said $50, not $25.
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12-23-2021 , 01:07 AM
For me in that situation, it’ll generally come down to how much I like the dealer, and/or if the hand that led to the win had some good drama to it.

If I don’t like you or think you’re incompetent (but not new), it’s $25. Neutral, $50. Like you $75-100. Really like you $100+ depending on how well I know you/if I know you’re going they some ****/ or how drunk I am.

Not sure how fair that is, but that’s pretty much the basis for my decision. I’ve gone as high as a 50/50 split on jackpot stuff if you’re someone I actually know outside of “just dealing,” and it’s either holiday season or you’ve had a bad recent go of things.

But the in in-casino tip would be $100 and the rest would be given next time i see you outside of the casino. Or am I not supposed to say that?
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12-23-2021 , 01:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Playbig2000
What does that have to do with anything? This isn't the same as winning a $2K pot, it's a bonus - free money on top of the pot we won (yeah, I know, it comes from "our" money).

You can go ahead and throw the dealer $20 if you prefer, it's your choice, but from the dealer's perspective they will feel like they got stiffed, that I can assure you.
Why is this a good metric?
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12-23-2021 , 03:24 AM
True, I didn’t even see that. I think 20 dollars is a little low, but if someone gave that much I wouldn’t even think twice.

I have seen dealers complain about a 1k total tip on a 45k jackpot. I thought that was ridiculous. Making 1k for one hand of poker is great. It’s because they were comparing it to a 50k jackpot where they made 4k. I can’t control the perceptions of a greedy dealer, I can only tip what I think is fair.
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12-23-2021 , 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Playbig2000
You can go ahead and throw the dealer $20 if you prefer, it's your choice, but from the dealer's perspective they will feel like they got stiffed, that I can assure you.
If this is the same selfish baby who would have felt stiffed by a $75 tip, then we've wasted $55 less for the same result.
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12-23-2021 , 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by sevencard2003
i dont mind them reducing the prize pool for a $125 tourney. i just dont want to pay $125 plus $20 instead of $125. take it out of what the winners get---not out of all who buyin

People who don't win are never paying the tip. If you don't cash, it is irrelevant how much of the buy in went to the dealer fee/tip.

However, it is true that if you are a losing player and cashing less often than the average, you would prefer not to pre-tip.
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12-23-2021 , 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by nofunnybzns1
People who don't win are never paying the tip.
Sure they are. It's like as if they went into a restaurant and put a $20 on the table and said, "Hey guys, I got your server's tip for you tonight."

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Originally Posted by nofunnybzns1
If you don't cash, it is irrelevant how much of the buy in went to the dealer fee/tip.
Sure it's relevant. If losers never subsidize the tip/fee via their buy-ins, losers have more money to buy-in into more tourneys.
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12-23-2021 , 01:02 PM
Lady walks up to a Guy and says she somehow lost her money and needed some for gas.

Oh really, how much did you lose? .. About 200

Well here's 40 for gas .. The Lady graciously thanks him, gives a hug and walks away

Guy is pretty proud of himself for 'paying it forward' .. after all he just found a bunch of cash laying on the sidewalk, maybe around 200


Well, at least they both feel good about the situation now!? GL
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12-23-2021 , 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by albedoa
If this is the same selfish baby who would have felt stiffed by a $75 tip, then we've wasted $55 less for the same result.
Nah, 75 is reasonable at least.

I would however like to know when and how did my protege, TBC, the rain man of poker get banned? any one know?
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12-23-2021 , 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Playbig2000
At least 100 min. $25 is really a slap in the face to the dealer tbh. People who win $300 high hands tip min. 25/30.
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Originally Posted by Playbig2000
Nah, 75 is reasonable at least.

I would however like to know when and how did my protege, TBC, the rain man of poker get banned? any one know?
Ah so 75 is reasonable now? So the minimum is not 100? Sounds like you’re a stiff. It should be 500 minimum. After all, it’s found money, right?
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12-23-2021 , 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by checkraisdraw
Ah so 75 is reasonable now? So the minimum is not 100? Sounds like you’re a stiff. It should be 500 minimum. After all, it’s found money, right?
If it was me I would give at least $100. If someone wants to give $75, It's a lot more reasonable than a stiff $20.


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12-23-2021 , 10:39 PM
It’s funny because if the casino didn’t take any money out of the pot for jackpots and bonuses, the dealer wouldn’t be expecting any tip. But since money is coming off the table for a promo fund, the dealers expect a payday.
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12-24-2021 , 01:02 AM
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Originally Posted by checkraisdraw
It’s funny because if the casino didn’t take any money out of the pot for jackpots and bonuses, the dealer wouldn’t be expecting any tip. But since money is coming off the table for a promo fund, the dealers expect a payday.
No one should play games that take a promotional vig.
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12-24-2021 , 02:10 AM
I’m fine with the promotional fund, but the point is that the expectations for tips are oftentimes overinflated. Maybe if the casinos were still taking 4 dollar max drop then I could see a 5% expectations.
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12-24-2021 , 02:19 AM
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Originally Posted by checkraisdraw
I’m fine with the promotional fund, but the point is that the expectations for tips are oftentimes overinflated. Maybe if the casinos were still taking 4 dollar max drop then I could see a 5% expectations.
Why would you be fine with a promotional fund? Don't they take like 30% or something off the top?
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12-24-2021 , 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Land O Lakes
Why would you be fine with a promotional fund? Don't they take like 30% or something off the top?
Som place might but many take none. Around here they do not take any admin fees.
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