No, generally tips do not scale with stakes of the game. The players may be wealthier and more willing to tip, but even at 25/50 most people tip around $1/hand

Really depends on the player field at nosebleed stakes. A 25-50 game of pros is often $1 per hand if you're lucky. A 25-50 game with wealthy rec players can make a dealer's week in half an hour.

Well I was part of my first bad beat payout, only table share. The beat was $68k at a $1/2 table with quad 7s qualifying. UTG straddled, 2 limp call, HJ raises $16, UTG calls and one more.

Flop JJ7. UTG bets $50, fold to HJ who bets $125, UTG shoves for slightly more and tables 77 for the flopped boat. HJ tables QJ for trips.

Turn J. UTG looks sick and defeated.

River 7. Hooray, bad beat! UTG is happy again.

Payouts were $32k, $16k and table share of $2215. I was paid out first and figured $215 ok for a tip for a table share, figuring the winners would cover the dealer. Big winner gave him a little under $1k, and the $15k winner gave him $200! I felt so bad for him.

Is my perception off that the winners were being a bit stingy? The $15K winner is a reg; the big winner, 1 time a month weekend warrior.

that's an absurd amount to tip someone

you've been paying for the BBJ with extra rake - it's not free money

I’m a dealer and I think that tip is very generous you gave him. You’d definitely be in the top 1% of tippers.

The 1k tipper was very generous. And so was the 200 dollar tipper. It’s a single hand of poker, and making 1500+ for a hand of poker is awesome. If the dealer felt cheated somehow, that’s the fault of perception. The math on tipping the jackpot favors the guy that tipped a little over 1%, but if you feel more is justified I think that’s amazing, especially if the dealer is really good and a nice person overall.

Some dealers are poor and I think their tip should reflect that. Players oftentimes just judge how much they should tip based off of how lucky they are.

1) No pocket pair? Lucky qualification to begin with ...

2) What does 'figuring the winners would cover the Dealer' mean? Who did you tip if not the Dealer also?

3) I'm not sure how to even search for it in this 'massive' thread, but I would be very surprised if you could find very many spots that would tip more than 4-5% of a BBJ payout. You probably will find more comments around the 1-2% tip level, especially when the payout starts to grow. Some other comments may have a 'cap' tip regardless of the total payout.

4) If you figure 25% for taxes, which would net you around $1660, then you paid out more like 13% of your 'take home' as a tip (not deductible) ... very generous indeed. Since this payout was more than $1000 you should be receiving a 1099G early next year.

Opinions on tip size are an individual matter and can vary for sure (see this thread), but I don't think you'll find 'stingy' associated with this scenario. Only if you compare your tip to the others would stingy come into play ... and that would be if you found enough folks with a similar mindset. You'll find many many more that would consider your tip to be excessive and setting the bar way too high for the norm. GL

+1

I'd personally be really annoyed if the first guy who jumps in with a tip gives that much and arbitrarily sets the bar. It's a dick move in many ways because nobody can argue in front of the dealer that you just gave too much and it sets everyone else up as "stingy" when you are the one just throwing money around.

I tip and tip well, but you can't think of percentages like that when dealing with large numbers. This isn't a restaurant bill that's fairly standard and usually capped.

you felt bad for what? the dealer made 1200 dollars just from 2 players for pushing waxed paper from 2 guys who hit a lottery that is funded by the players. any dealer who would complain about either tip deserves nothing.

It is amazing how brainwashed some poker and pit game dealers are.
A blackjack dealer can give terrible advice all night, do absolutely nothing and if some whale wins a lot of money and throws them 100 bucks they call them cheap. But do they direct any of their anger at their employers making money hand over fist every single day for paying them dust? Of course not!

Guy at my joint once dealt the jackpot of ~100k on a short handed 3/6 table full of stiffs. This was back when we still had a room share and it hit on a Friday night, so he was locked in dealing to these turds for over 3 hours. He ended up making less that night than an average night of not dealing the bad beat.

Worst of all these stiffs now had an extremely padded bankroll to keep coming back and playing 3/6 while continuing to stiff.

See that's really shitty
The guy has to sit there not dealing while paperwork is being done for hours
Take care.of him

But that doesn't mean throws thousands of dollars at him either especially if they're a bad dealer

I mean if someone is feeling generous and wants to good for them and good for the dealer

But dealers shouldn't feel entitled to it

Why would you feel bad for him/her? Just from yourself and the other 2 people you mentioned they made $1400 dealing a hand of poker in $1/$2. Just think about that. As a player you pay into the promotional/bbjp pool. No one owes the dealer anything. I was in on a table share a couple weeks ago. My share was $2400. I tipped the dealer $25 and felt perfectly fine about it and she was really appreciative to receive it. If you want to tip 10% on a BBJP table share then knock yourself out but LOL at thinking that everyone else needs to as well. Sounds like you really didn't want to either you just felt some type of pressure to. If you truly wanted to give that much you wouldn't care or even had paid attention to what anyone else tipped or started this thread. Last week I tipped $25 for my share and I couldn't even tell you what everyone else tipped because I didn't care and it's not my business.

Why is he still working there?

+1. This is a very big problem that is occurring in casinos in the US.

I've been enduring this conversation on the tables for the last 2 weeks. Oddly enough, the same players who ***** about how a big tip would be expected from them if they hit the BBJ are the same ones who felt a player got "robbed" because he only got 1/4 table share after being absent for 40+ minutes when it hit.

Maybe the dealers wouldn’t ***** about it if they were paid a fair wage. But then we’ll see how high the rake gets here, like it does in europe and australia and we’ll get to hear the players ***** about that.

I actually find a majority of the dealers at my local casino a pleasure to work with. A lot do a good job and keep the games going fast/fun. But I have seen my fair share of bad dealers either at the table games like borg23 mentioned, either having a shitty attitude or just downright giving wrong advice when not familiar with basic strat whilst still expecting tips. When the advice turns out to be wrong all they manage is a mere soft apology. But when it turns out to be the right advice all of a sudden they are superstars and deserve more than average tips due to their ‘right’ call.

And then you have a minority of self entitled dealers who have a preconceived notion of how much one should tip either when hitting a big jackpot (bbj or mtt), and anyone who tips less than that ‘expectation’ is labeled a ‘cheap’ or even more so at the cash games when delivering a one outer in a huge pot and only receiving a red.

Haha, I've played for 15 years at casinos fairly regularly and never been at a jackpot table....

I mean your 200$ is super generous, let's get that out of the way. I'm a server, all my brothers have served so we are good tippers in my family. 20% is standard. But if I got 2200 on a table share I'd probably do exactly as biiig and tip 25-50 depending on how well I was already doing that night. Let the boys who won serious money take care of the dealer but even if everybody throws them 50 on average that dealer still made 450$! That's a week if work for your average person. Not bad.

If I got a jackpot (I'm due damnit!) For 32k I guess id probably tip about 300$ I Think that's pretty reasonable if not generous tbh

As somebody else mentioned tipping in this scenario is capped in my mind. If I win big hands I throw them a 5, some times 10 if it's like a 500bb hand but no dealer is getting 1k from me, I'm not wealthy and 1k is a good amount of money

Why was he locked into the same table for 3+ hours?

Poor room management probably.

Or it's just a giant pain to make sure that they pay everyone so they force the whole room to stay at their table till they are all paid?

They would pay out the rest of the room first, which involved stopping every game for a little while, and oftentimes surveillance calls if the dealer was clueless and couldn't remember who was dealt in the hand. Then they would pay out room share tables individually first, which ended up taking pretty long if it was a busy night (we were also short-staffed on floors for quite some time). As all of this is going on they remove the main table from the string because they want the dealer who dealt it to be at the table when the big payout finally happens. More often than not it worked out great for the dealer, players were all in good spirits and $1 tippers were often giving $2-3, and on bigger pots the redbirds were flowing. But in the case of a bad table, the dealer was just hating life.


I imagine the former probably played a big role in it. Shortly after a new manager who I feel like really knows his stuff came in, he changed it so a much higher percentage of the bad beat $1 goes toward the promotions pool (before promotions were pretty nonexistent) and he re-did the bad beat so there was no more room share, oftentimes room share was way more hassle than it was worth over what could end up being just a couple hundred bucks on a busy night.

I always pull the dealer when the payout comes and post them up at an empty table with me and the money. If it was a room share, I take one table at a time and have them come over to be paid by the dealer. If it was a table share I pull one player at a time to come get paid. The dealer always pays everyone and has a tip box right there.

+1. Dealers certainly shouldn’t be the one to decide how much of a cut they deserve form your hard earned profit. Unreal that some think they deserve 100s or 1000s for pitching some cards for an hour. Get real. If u think u deserve more money go be a doctor or lawyer

Exactly my point

lol who expects that? get real