I am significantly less concerned what dealers "prefer" and more concerned with whats the fairest and best system overall. I would prefer business balance there payroll distribution better so we did not have to tip to begin with.

They are not actually working at that point so its not a problem at all as I see it. That is bad managment.

LOL, I hope you get to revisit this reply of yours in a decade or two. At that point you may understand the folly of your statement.

lol ok

Literally every state in the US has laws that protect employees against people who think like you.

I didn't interpret what he said as meaning they shouldn't be paid then, but that management should arrange things so that there aren't so many times dealers have nothing to do. Which I agree would be ideal for everyone, but figure it must be tough to do that well.

It's impossible to schedule the perfect number of dealers at all times. The only exception is when your room is so busy that every table is full. Then you only have to figure out how many downs you want the dealers to do between breaks and the formula is a cinch to figure out.

I've seen my room go from 6 tables to 12 tables in half an hour.

I've dealt a short-handed 1-2 NL game that broke, only to see 12 new players show up, with me re-opening my table as a brand new 1-2 NL game, all before I was able to finish suiting the cards I'd been using.

I've seen a new 2-4 limit table open up at 3:30 in the morning. Who could ever plan around this?

Players will badger the supervisors to open a new table when there are 7 names on the list. The best thing for the room is to have a couple of extra dealers waiting around for when the rush does come.

I consider myself pretty frugal, and even I think $1 per down is too little.

I think $2-3 per down is reasonable, and will save you plenty of money rather than tipping $1/hand.

I am totally happy with a buck on every hand that consists of a called post-flop bet or preflop raise. Even as dealer, I don't tip every time I just steal the blinds (usually will when I'm up). It is nice when you get more than a a buck on big hands that take a long time, or just to make up for all the times you get nothing. Will never get mad at a buck, though I would say you should probably tip at least 2 or 3 on something like a five way allin PLO hand.

I deal outside of a casino where we can't directly accept chips for tips and I've dealt a bunch of terrible $4 and $5 downs because of it. And I likely deal more hands per hour than most would in a casino since there's no bravo, fills, or rebuys out of the rack to deal with, plus we rarely ever get more than up-downs so the hourly is often terrible (and the base wage is lower than most casinos). The schedule is more manageable than a casino for someone who wants to eventually do something else with their life, that's why I stay.

Texas poker clubs?

Michigan charity room.

I halfway take back getting in more hands per hour, that might've been a lie. I forgot how much easier it was to have a shuffle machine instead of hand shuffling, it's been a while. Fills, buyins, and wonky player card readers would always slow the game though. No one ever wanted to go to the cage, so we'd have to constantly refill the rack. PLO rack became empty like every 2 hands.

If everyone followed your system I wouldn't make $18 an hour plus my hourly rate.

The tables in my room are 9 handed. It's pretty common to deal a game with 7 or 8 players. Now I'm making $7 or $8 for the down instead of the full $9.

I probably average around 12 thirty minute downs in an 8 hour shift. Let's figure $9 per table even though its realistically less. So that's $108 for the night, which us $13.50 per hour plus my hourly rate. Which works out to about $18 per hour with all things considered.

Now we can have a lively discussion about whether or not I'm worth that much for doing the job I do. But the answer to your question is that I'd stop dealing if it became evident that I could expect to make $720 per week and bring home around $500 per week home after taxes and health insurance deductions.

Same here. At $8 or even $12 per down I'm not staying in that room. If that figure followed me to the next room I'd find another line of work.

I didn't have a problem with what he initially said to me; it was the rage-tilting at me for asking what he said that was the issue. Kind of hard to view yourself as a confidant after dude goes off. Definitely over the line and withholding his parting toke was a no-brainer, imo. But my wife thought I was being petty by stiffing him in a game with pots 50x the size because of some **** that happened in a game I don't care about a few days earlier, particularly since he was a good dealer. My contention was that you're either professional or not and the stakes do not matter, and not stiffing him never even crossed my mind.

Seems like a non-issue to me. You want me to give voluntary gratuities to you, don't be a dick to me.

How much to tip when u just won 5k at BJ counting. With a bet spread of $50-$800.

You can post in General Gambling --> Other Gambling Games. This is a poker forum, so you're not going to get the best answers here.

what was your ev?
unless you put in some marathon session (unlikely) it wasn't more than a few hundred bucks.

So you tip x% of ur ev? I tipped $75 at the end of the sess, obv got glares and sighs and what not. Reflected after my sess and felt like there wasn’t a difference between tipping $75 and $0 in that spot. Wished I could ask for that $75 back but it’s obv long gone now.

How long did you play?

Sighing about a 75 dollar tip is ridiculous and I would probably ask for my tip back.


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i rarely tip bj dealers for this exact reason.
most dealers are inept as it is,they're extremely entitled, tips are pooled,they call out checks play etc.
like if you're counting you want fast dealers with good pen who don't alert the pit to your spread. even when you find one like this they still share your money with mostly useless dealers.

nothing barring an absurd tip makes them happy when you win big.
there's also no point in counting if you're just gonna tip away your ev which was why I asked what your actual ev was.

i've dabbled back into card counting this year.overall i'm up about 18k. my best session and worst session were around 3500-4000 each.my spreads have been anything from 50-300 on dd, to 1 hand of 25 to 2 hands of 400 on a 6 deck game (usually spread less than this.)

If on a big session I threw them 100 bucks it still wouldn't be enough so what's the point?They turn over waxed cardboard,generally give terrible bs advice (so they're either stupid or liars), push people to make terrible side bets etc so why am I tipping?That terrible service is supposed to be worth hundreds of dollars an hour in their eyes? It's a joke.

Was gonna say 50-100

Probably 5 shoes

Glad to know I’m not alone. But you really have to be insanely thick skin to cash out 5.5k when u only bought in for 500 with the same dealer and not tip a cent

I tip nothing at blackjack. The edge is to small to be tipping away any of your EV, unless you're employing more advanced strategies than straight counting.