No, hardly anyone does this, tipping when winning a pot is just the customary way dealers are tipped. But that doesn't mean I think the dealer had any influence on my winning the pot or how big it was.

That sucks. Still, I'm not tipping if the situation imo doesn't call for it.

You were definitely wrong about this. I believe pretty much all dealers make minimum wage. In Nevada it is $8.25, in California it is $10.50. But in most other states it is much lower for customarily tipped positions. In some places it may be as low as the federal minimum wage for tipped employees, which is only $2.13 per hour.

That's fine; your losing a pot, for example, is a situation that doesn't call for tipping.

However, if you win a pot, but the dealer is someone you somehow still think is generally "unlucky" for you, tipping is still called for.

Yeah, that really sucks then...so the assumption is the rest of the world would probably be similar?

Anyways, this has no bearing on when/how I tip though.

Ok, that's where I will disagree, especially if the pot is really small. I won't even tip my "lucky" dealers if I, for example, only win the pf blinds or something small, that's too much imo.

In some parts of the world (eg Australia), tipping is not allowed (and rake is extremely high). I assume that dealers are paid a good wage there.

I don't know much about other places, but anyplace where tipping is customary probably does not pay their dealers very well.

You can tip or not tip whomever you want, but if you generally tip waitresses who do a decent job (for example), you should tip poker dealers who do a decent job, as they are both in the same category of service personnel.

I also don't generally tip if there is no flop, and most others don't as well.

Again it has nothing to do with any perceived luckiness of the dealer though.

I definitely tip those that do a decent job, in other words, give me a good-sized pot hahah.

I'll only tip w/out a flop if I won a decent amount. Like, if I 4b and the 3b folds I might tip.
If I raise to like 3x pre, get 1 caller, and it goes bet/fold otf I probably won't tip for that either.

Basically any other circumstance I'll tip $1 ($2-3 for large pots).

Getting a $1 tip pre-flop feels like getting a red bird.

I tip when I raise and just take down the blinds. I think this compensates for me not increasing my tips as much as other players when I take down a huge pot. I recently gave $5 for a $4K pot and I know other players who would give $25 or more for that.

Just a side note on the 'tipped' wage ...

Although the law allows for a lower than 'minimum' hourly rate .. which looks pretty bad as a stand alone wage .. most states ensure by law that all employees make at least minimum wage 'after' tips have been reported. If an employee reports tips that when combined with their hourly wage result in an average wage of below the minimum wage for that state, then the employer is responsible to pay the difference up to the minimum wage.

Believe me, there aren't too many employers/employees out there that would continue to work in a business where a tipped employee wasn't earning at least minimum wage .. maybe in the golf/hotel realm where a bag totter may not make much in tips.

So 'all' employees are guaranteed minimum wage, but their 'reported' tips can go well beyond the minimum wage. I can, with certainty, say that Dealers in some of the charity rooms average well over $16/hour once everything has been taken into consideration. Of course pretty much all of them don't even work 20 hours a week due to the Supplier 'being fair' to all the Dealers when it comes to scheduling.

You can also see how credit cards are now influencing taxable wages more so ... Before, a waitress could actually 'pick' what they were taxed on via the 'tip form' filled out each week. Now, with the majority of the tips being added to a credit payment, the option to discount those amounts is very limited. Some of my Bob Evans checks were under $20 and I even saw a payroll check for $0.00 one time because the amount of tips was so great that the employee didn't have enough in other wages to cover the taxes due. GL

No.

I deal part-time, so no benefits/insurance, and full-time openings only come up about once per year. In 2017, I worked 1509 hours and made $45118.74 in tips (after the ~2.5% taken out and given to chip-runners). I make $6.07/hr in base pay, and any PTO used is paid at minimum wage ($7.25/hr).

Altogether, I made just under $55k last year working ~30 hours a week and using 134 hours of PTO. My average work week is 3-4 days starting between 6pm and 9pm, and working 8-10 hours. I work every Friday/Saturday (unless I use PTO), and work another day or two each week based on scheduling needs (it's pretty common to have broken up off days).

I would guess that I'm somewhere in the middle of the road as far as what swing/grave dealers make where I work, and I'd say my rank among the other dealers when it comes to speed/efficiency is top 15% and my personality is bottom 40%. Imo, I feel like personality goes much farther than speed/efficiency when it comes to making money. There are dealers there who I think suck at dealing, but know how to have a fun personality around the right players who will tip them big. Also, female dealers who are any resemblance of cute have it on easy mode. The ones who work swing/grave with me crush it (even moreso if they flirt), and I wouldn't be surprised if the full-time ones who work all of their hours are making 100k.

lol $5 is plenty bud

So even though you don't like a particular dealer, you'll still tip him? Or all dealers are neutral in your eyes?

I'll respond even though this wasn't directed at me.

For me to "not like" a dealer, I would need a very strong reason. For example, there's one dealer that every time somebody doesn't tip him, he loudly says NICE HAND while pausing/staring at them for a couple seconds... then starts to be very grumpy if they don't pick up on his cue. I'll rarely tip this guy now.

I'll never deny tips because they dealt me a bad beat. If that's somebody elses definition of "doesn't like them", pretty absurd but w/e, to each their own.

Can't think of any other dealers I don't like enough to actually withhold tips.

This is actually a very good question, completely on topic, and not really addressed enough in this thread, considering the volume of posts. I love the disclaimer (we realize the outcome of the hand isn't affected by the dealer and that dealers aren't going to push us more pots/bigger pots just because they think we're good tippers).

So what are the valid reasons for tipping a dealer?

1. Because dealing has been classified as a tipped position and we recognize that their paycheck depends on receiving tips. We do our part out of a sense of responsibility or obligation.

2. Because we appreciate the service provided by the dealer.

3. Because we like the dealer.

4. Because most other players tip and we're following a custom.

5. Because we don't want to look bad in front of the other people at the table and thought of as being cheap.

6. Because we want the dealer to like us.

7. Because we want to impress the other people at the table with how generous we are.

8. Because it makes us feel good to do something nice for other people.

9. Because we'll feel guilty if we don't tip after winning a pot.

10. Because we think the dealer will try to punish us with a bad ruling or by acting inappropriately in a way that will cost us money if we don't tip them (e.g. saying something during a hand that will cost us a call from another player or mucking our hand when we're not paying close enough attention).

I realize that some of these reasons probably overlap. I'd like to hope that most players are tipping because of reasons #1, #2, #3, and #8.

And I realize that #10 is a terrible reason to tip, but suspect that some players might feel this way.

How about if they are talking instead of paying attention and burn and turn on incomplete action and it costs you a 1k pot?

Glad you mentioned this. Becuase I've seen people get mad at this. And my answer is: the people who get mad about "costing them the pot" are actually the biggest ****ing ******s ever.

ITS ALL RANDOM. Yeah, it happened to be that the burn and turn was bad for you, BUT YOU WOULDNT BE COMPLAINING IF THE MISTAKE ACTUALLY SAVED YOU MONEY. FK THAT RESULTS ORIENTED BULL****

Now, that being said. If you want to get mad at them for talking/not paying attnetion in general, fine. But DO NOT get upset because the variance of the mistake was not in your favor.

Fixed your post. I hate burn and turns due to a dealer not paying attention too.

I don't tip dealers I don't like. I tip dealers I like very well. I'm assuming you do the same, but the only difference between us is how we each define the word like.

Good Lord, son.

What's your definition of dealers you dislike enough not to tip? Also, is this no matter what they do, still no tip?