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Old 01-06-2018, 08:42 AM   #7351
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Agreed, I’m curious what you think is a fireable offense if not this. Like how far off is your line.
This question wasn't directed at me, but it's a good question.

An incomplete list of a fireable offense is going to be:

1. Intentional theft from the casino, coworkers, or players.
2. Intentionally cheating the game (dealing from the bottom of the deck, flashing cards to a player, etc).

Actually the first 2 are likely fireable and also merit pressing charges.

3. Insubordination. Refusing to go to an assigned table. Telling off a supervisor. Arguing with a floor person while on the casino floor in a public space (around customers).

4. Fighting.

5. Cussing out a player or coworker, or insulting a customer while at a table or on the casino floor. (Obviously this is a judgment call and depends on the circumstances. If a dealer is taking a friendly jab at a known customer then insulting a player doesn't necessarily require any discipline at all.)

6. No call no show (some businesses will allow multiple instances of this before termination).

7. Deliberately leaving a table unattended when it has cards, cash, or chips on it.

8. Coming to work drunk or high or using drugs or alcohol while at work.

9. Engaging in sexual conduct with a customer or coworker on company property while on the clock (or probably while off the clock too).

That's all I can think of at the top of my head for fireable offenses in terms of one strike and you're out. I'm sure I've missed plenty of other examples for the list.

Hustling for tips in the manner described in the OP is going to be a disciplinary warning and I'm sending the dealer home for the night and probably giving him 2 days to a week off to think about whether this job is for him.

If it's a second offense, he's fired.
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Old 01-06-2018, 12:46 PM   #7352
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Re: Tipping CONTAINMENT thread.

Lol @ that list. You forgot #10: doing a ****ty job.

Intentionally giving ****ty service isn't just hustling for tips. It's being a ****ty dealer. Hustling for tips is verbal.
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Old 01-06-2018, 02:13 PM   #7353
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Lol @ that list. You forgot #10: doing a ****ty job.

Intentionally giving ****ty service isn't just hustling for tips. It's being a ****ty dealer. Hustling for tips is verbal.
Frankly, dealers don't get fired for that. It's on us as tippers to withhold tips from ****ty dealers to drive them out via decreasing their bottom line. Save those tips for the good dealers if you feel bad about not automatically tipping every time you win a pot.
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Old 01-06-2018, 02:32 PM   #7354
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Lol @ that list. You forgot #10: doing a ****ty job.
That has never been a fireable offense anywhere I've worked. It takes prolonged periods of that followed by the right players complaining to the right supervisor. That, or sufficient writeups for specific things that room cares about like not collecting rake, letting a player sit in the wrong tournament seat, letting their rack be off, premature cards.
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Old 01-07-2018, 03:12 PM   #7355
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How did I defend the dealer? I said both were bad. I was trying to provide context and make an observation about how talking about something was considered worse than actually doing it.
Your first paragraph, which I am sure you did include for context, could be seen as an attempt at justification. But it doesn't matter if he had not seen a tip in 50 downs over the last couple of weeks, it is no reason to slow down or threaten to. It is a reason to look at his performance as a dealer for the why.

Btw the reason talking about it is worse than just doing it is two fold. First it ensures everyone is aware and aware it is intentional. Second it is a not so subtle attempt to extort the patrons.
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