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Old 12-12-2017, 08:47 PM   #7301
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Re: Tipping CONTAINMENT thread.

Sounds like the employees at competing casino were extremely unprofessional if anyone besides the dealer that dealt the BBJ knows how much was tipped.
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Old 12-12-2017, 08:50 PM   #7302
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Sounds like the employees at competing casino were extremely unprofessional if anyone besides the dealer that dealt the BBJ knows how much was tipped.
Not if he was tipped at the table or in front of other regs.
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Old 12-12-2017, 08:52 PM   #7303
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Sounds like the employees at competing casino were extremely unprofessional if anyone besides the dealer that dealt the BBJ knows how much was tipped.
more like the vast majority of poker players at that dealer's home casino are scumbags

however, I'm not sure if I'm buying the story - how many people are showing up to a low paying menial job the day after crushing a life-changing windfall
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Old 12-12-2017, 10:23 PM   #7304
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more like the vast majority of poker players at that dealer's home casino are scumbags

however, I'm not sure if I'm buying the story - how many people are showing up to a low paying menial job the day after crushing a life-changing windfall
This last part. I totally believe the story, and I've been around poker rooms enough to know that this guy was probably looking for an excuse to quit after getting 7-8 years worth of salary in one day. I'm surprised he even showed up to his next shift.
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Old 12-13-2017, 02:56 AM   #7305
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Re: Tipping CONTAINMENT thread.

$280k isn't enough to quit your job and live off of without a plan. Even with a conservative investment strategy it's probably not enough to quit your day job.
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Old 12-13-2017, 06:52 AM   #7306
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I read "wins 700K"


Yeah, 280 is a lot less, but most dealers are degens and would gladly take a few months off to reward themselves.
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Old 12-13-2017, 09:29 AM   #7307
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Re: Tipping CONTAINMENT thread.

The information was that he didn't miss any shifts and the non-tipping carried on for almost 2 months before he decided to quit. What we don't know is how he carried himself before and/or after the win which may have swayed the masses against him. As we all know, there is always more to a story the further down the line the story travels since only the juicy details travel 'well'. GL
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Old 12-13-2017, 01:41 PM   #7308
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Re: Tipping CONTAINMENT thread.

I find it hard to believe that all those players, acting together, were so upset that the dealer didn't tip enough on a BBJ that they all stopped tipping completely. First, because I find it hard to believe that an entire population of poker players would even tip a BBJ at all, much less be upset at a dealer who tipped $400. Just look at the range of comments from players in this thread about whether players should tip a BBJ at all. Second, most people are decent people and would feel bad taking advantage of the dealer's work for free by not tipping him. I just find it hard to believe that would happen every hand for every down for a whole day, much less two months.

OTOH, I could more likely believe the idea that the word of a dealer winning $280k spread around, regardless of tip, and players feeling like "this guy is rich so he doesn't need my buck" and not tipping. Sort of like if they heard that a dealer had won millions in the lotto, but was still working for something to do while he figured out how to spend all his money, would they still tip him? IMO it is more likely that they would use his win as an excuse to stop tipping "because he doesn't need it anymore" than the fact that they are so upset that he "only" gave a dealer $400 and that upset them SOOOOO much that they want to punish the dealer and drive him out of the job. It would be a pretty unique group of players in that room that would be so offended by what they considered a low tip for a dealer in another room. That just seems unbelievable to me.

Last edited by Riverine; 12-13-2017 at 01:47 PM. Reason: But if it's true, that room must be a gold mine of tips. Pls say which room. Thks in advance. ;)
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Old 12-13-2017, 11:00 PM   #7309
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Sounds like the employees at competing casino were extremely unprofessional if anyone besides the dealer that dealt the BBJ knows how much was tipped.
The casino in question is Harrah's in Joliet, IL. They pool tips there, so I don't think it's unprofessional for all dealers working that shift to want to know who tipped what.

And I talked to one of the dealers that worked that shift, he said combined they made about $4,000 from the table, which he said was disappointing for all of the dealers.
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Old 12-14-2017, 10:04 PM   #7310
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And I talked to one of the dealers that worked that shift, he said combined they made about $4,000 from the table, which he said was disappointing for all of the dealers.
$4,000 of free money from a player-only invested fund, and they are disappointed? Lol dealers.
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Old 12-14-2017, 10:39 PM   #7311
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$4,000 of free money from a player-only invested fund, and they are disappointed? Lol dealers.
Yeah this seems like a crazy amount of entitlement to me.
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Old Yesterday, 01:04 PM   #7312
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Old Yesterday, 04:54 PM   #7313
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$4,000 of free money from a player-only invested fund, and they are disappointed? Lol dealers.
Dealers locally "hope" (iow, expect from us) about 3% of a BBJ. Which is equal to a player's share almost. (We are 9 handed and split 50:25:25 so full table player share is 25/3 or 3.6%)

I have never been lucky enough to be on the table for a BBJP but can promise you, the dealer (they don't pool) will not be getting even close to that much from me.

A word to them, if you get 1% of my money feel lucky.

BTW, here there a 3 immediately local casinos with current BBJPs of $80K, $225k and $290k. So the "expectations" are 2400, 6750, 8700. So they "expect" just from the "loser" over $4k in the biggest one. Not gonna happen if it is me.
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Old Yesterday, 06:18 PM   #7314
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Re: Tipping CONTAINMENT thread.

Motor City Casino ... $1,010,000.00 right now (Quad/Quad) ... table only ... 40/20/40.

$30K tip? ... It will be interesting ...

Anybody need a short-term job and want to 'play' the odds? No tournaments at this casino and they just got onto Bravo if you want to follow along. GL
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Old Yesterday, 06:42 PM   #7315
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Motor City Casino ... $1,010,000.00 right now (Quad/Quad) ... table only ... 40/20/40.

$30K tip? ... It will be interesting ...

Anybody need a short-term job and want to 'play' the odds? No tournaments at this casino and they just got onto Bravo if you want to follow along. GL
I'll bet the person who tokes out $30K with a smile on his face will cry and moan about having to pay 6-figs to the tax man.
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