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Originally Posted by AngusThermopyle
Good work at misstating my response.
I said I might say something if I felt the player did not intend to tip as much as the dealer thought (in the specific case that the player might have wanted a larger chip chopped up).
Example: Locally, $1s are dark blue. $20's are black. Player wins a good sized pot at $3/$6. Not paying attention, he tosses a chip to the dealer. A $20 that had gotten into the pot. You would claim that I should shut up and not say anything. You, it seems would keep the chip.
It the actual case, the dealer asked the player if he realized it was a $20. The player didn't. Dealer tossed the chip back. Player tipped him $2.
Well, leave it to the dealer to ask the player if they meant to tip that much. Some people are very generous in their tipping. It's not your duty to regulate the tipping.
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Your feelings of self-entitlement are appalling. And so is your work ethic. Would you want your employer to see your posts itt? Doubt it.
My posts are a censored version of what's really said about stiffs. I'd be banned if I quoted a fraction of what is said about non-tippers in the break room.
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As for the whole "if this player is too cheap to tip me $1, then **** him" argument you and others itt have supported, the converse of your argument is more legitimate: if you (the dealer) really need that $1 so bad for your finances, then you can beg (ask) me for it. If my finances are stable, I'm likely to help you out with much more than $1. I don't hate generosity or helping people. I simply avoid tipping because it's a custom that is generally bad for the economy, along w/ the fact that it's often in my personal best interest; when it's not, I usually do tip. I don't view tipping as a matter of principle, but rather as a matter of practicality.
Tipping is bad for the economy? I guess if you really can't afford a dollar, and it's breaking you, then I suppose that would be a valid argument. Otherwise, it's a cop out for being cheap.
JDiamond, this guy (kowboykiller) was the first person to jump in support of your post. You would provide him the same customer service that you would a generous tipper, then he tells you that you can beg him for a dollar.
[quote=JohnWilkes I am not sure that is their motive. I believe it is more likely that DHAL wants to reduce dealers' tips. I do not believe he is currently a dealer. Perhaps he tried to be one but failed for whatever reason. He is now working to hurt dealers, not help himself just hurt dealers. Sad.
I believe he is practicing black propaganda. His low post count and refusal to say where he works gives some support to this conclusion. His claims that dealers and floors have a very poor opinion of players add more support.[/quote]
In other words, you fall into the broke/cheap/poor category and need justifcation. And no, I'm still not telling you where I work or giving any personal information about myself on some internet message board. It's creepy and weird you keep bringing it up.
[quote=I wonder if the dealers who intentionally deal/work slower because of non-tippers even realize that they're only hurting themselves in that they are reducing their expected income from tippers??? The fewer hands you deal, the fewer opportunities you have to be tipped by pot-winners that do tip; thus, hurting your bottom line. The ignorance is almost comical. [/quote]
Unless I missed something, who said they slow down because 1 person at the table won't tip?
I rush the non-tippers as much as possible to 1) annoy them. 2) hurry through any hand they may be involved in because there is a greater chance I won't make money. Go ahead and say you'll slow down the game yourself to hurt my tips. That's fine. I can't watch tv while the other 9 players get annoyed with you holding the game up.
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I always try to do my best work. It saddens me to see the sort of work ethic the "I only work hard when I'm tipped" dealers post here. I don't slow down or half-ass things when I think I'm not getting some sort of bonus.
You've clearly never dealt with the moochers in a service industry job.
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Edit: Interesting theory by JohnWilkes; that would never have occurred to me, but it does explain what really seems to be a caricature of the bad-attitude dealer:
It only comes across as bad if you're one of the ones I'm talking about. I work to make a living. Not to please you.
It's almost cute how some players here think that casino employees are like Disney employees. We're not walking to the break room, so overly happy that mp2012 gave us a dollar on a $600 pot, that took as long as 3 normal hands would have, that we can't contain ourselves. We love the generous tippers, we appreciate the consistant tippers, and hate the ones who stiff us.
You think it's a myth that servers spit in non-tippers' food? You think valet is careful with your car if you don't tip when you drop it off? You think bartenders don't make you wait forever if you stiffed them on the last drink you bought? It's comical how shocked some people are to get just a sample of what is really said about them. I thought it was somewhat common knowledge.