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12-21-2015 , 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by bigfishead
Notice the bolded. An often used word in this thread. Now, don't get me wrong, I'm not making a judgement as to what is or isn't, "over tipping".

Why is that? Because the amount YOU CHOOSE to tip is YOUR CHOICE. How can it possibly be "over tipping"?

So, taking it further. Does this mean when someone says x player over tipped, they are begrudging the amount? Do they feel it makes THEM look cheap? Do they feel less liked?

Just an odd thought, wondering why people really use "over tip".
Its just a phrase used to indicate someone who tips more than the usual or customary amount. Just as the phrase getting stiffed is used by dealers to indicate the players who CHOOSE to tip an amount of zero.

Nothing really to make of that term IMO.
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12-21-2015 , 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by borg23
i should tip zero if I win a pot right after someone overtips.
So, if I tip more than YOU think I should on a pot and you win the next hand you will stiff the dealer "because they got more than they should've" from me???
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12-21-2015 , 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Suit

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Originally Posted by borg23
i should tip zero if I win a pot right after someone overtips.
So, if I tip more than YOU think I should on a pot and you win the next hand you will stiff the dealer "because they got more than they should've" from me???
Nice quote totally out of context.

Last edited by AngusThermopyle; 12-21-2015 at 03:03 PM.
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12-21-2015 , 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Suit
So, if I tip more than YOU think I should on a pot and you win the next hand you will stiff the dealer "because they got more than they should've" from me???
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Originally Posted by AngusThermopyle
Nice quote totally out of context.
Yea, what the hell? You're better than that.
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12-21-2015 , 04:01 PM
Epic "dealer on autopilot" example.
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12-21-2015 , 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by AngusThermopyle
Nice quote totally out of context.
Agreed. Suit, you stripped away the context in order to change his meaning 180 degrees. You owe him an apology.
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12-21-2015 , 05:08 PM
Suit that was pretty ****ing low.
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12-21-2015 , 06:41 PM
Yeah, I must have read that really fast. Looking back after getting drilled I see my mistake. My apologies.
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12-21-2015 , 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by browser2920
Its just a phrase used to indicate someone who tips more than the usual or customary amount. Just as the phrase getting stiffed is used by dealers to indicate the players who CHOOSE to tip an amount of zero.

Nothing really to make of that term IMO.
+1 again.
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12-22-2015 , 03:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Suit
Yeah, I must have read that really fast. Looking back after getting drilled I see my mistake. My apologies.
Most of us knew you burned and turned and didn't do it on purpose. That's not your rep here.
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12-22-2015 , 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Land O Lakes
Most of us knew you burned and turned and didn't do it on purpose. That's not your rep here.
Still fun to give him **** for it
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12-31-2015 , 02:06 PM
horseshoe Baltimore:

I raised preflop and everyone folded.
I don't tip if theres no flop and people just limp in.

the dealer then makes a big deal to those that tipped him in all subsequent hands (all had flops) just to chide me.
including going thru the extra effort of actually holding up the $1 tip from other players and saying 'I appreciate that' in addition to thank you. (he never held up the tip in previous hands.)


F that fat bastard and his entitlement to tipping!
I'm never tipping him ever again!

and I'm surprised he didn't log me out of bravo.
(yes, I checked immediately after he left the table.)
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12-31-2015 , 02:20 PM
At casinos I dont tip in pots under $50, I can never understand why people throw the dealer a tip when taking the blinds down. Now in a private game if you want to be invited back you better be throwing cash around you dont want to do anything that may make you seem tight/cheap or be known for not tipping. FWIW I tip women better and more frequently.
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12-31-2015 , 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Drrr.Gonzo
FWIW I tip women better and more frequently.
Why is this?
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12-31-2015 , 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Land O Lakes

Why is this?
You have to ask?
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12-31-2015 , 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Land O Lakes
Why is this?
I'll go out on a limb here and say he's the guy who spends all his money on a stripper because she was really into him...
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12-31-2015 , 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by AngusThermopyle
You have to ask?
I do, yes.

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Originally Posted by T1967
I'll go out on a limb here and say he's the guy who spends all his money on a stripper because she was really into him...
Right, and he's got a better chance at the stripper. I only know of one person who got the hot dealer in the room, and he only got there when he was playing 75/150 for over a year (and even then it took him a lot of work). Then instead of her being in the box, she quit dealing and sat by him all day watching him play. Oh well, definitely made the scenery much nicer...
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12-31-2015 , 10:06 PM
It's human nature to treat good looking people better than average looking people. Here's an interesting test about that. They have models and regular people appear in situations needing help and see how people respond. Surprise surprise the models get way more help than tbe regular people.

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/3917414/ns.../#.VoXdPSe9KSM

I know from experience that this is true. Every time a female dealer puts my 2 outer on the river when I'm all in, I almost get embarrassed and feel like saying " you didnt really have to do that ".
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12-31-2015 , 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by browser2920
It's human nature to treat good looking people better than average looking people. Here's an interesting test about that. They have models and regular people appear in situations needing help and see how people respond. Surprise surprise the models get way more help than tbe regular people.

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/3917414/ns.../#.VoXdPSe9KSM

I know from experience that this is true. Every time a female dealer puts my 2 outer on the river when I'm all in, I almost get embarrassed and feel like saying " you didnt really have to do that ".
I understand all that, but helping an attractive woman on the street is worlds apart from a poker player tipping an attractive dealer more than another dealer (same skill set).
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12-31-2015 , 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Land O Lakes
I understand all that, but helping an attractive woman on the street is worlds apart from a poker player tipping an attractive dealer more than another dealer (same skill set).
I dont know why you think it is different. It's the same principle working. I have seen the exceptionally pretty dealers where I play get larger tips and seen young guys fawning all over them. Not so much from regs who worry about things like how tipping affects winrate, but definitely from young rec players out for entertainment.
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01-01-2016 , 01:28 AM
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Originally Posted by browser2920
I dont know why you think it is different.

To be fair, it shouldn't be different, but it's different when a woman is on the street who has no obligation to be nice to you compared to someone like a waitress/dealer/strippper/retail-clerk/customer-service-rep who is not only trying to make money, but is obligated to be nice to you even if there is no monetary gain to be had.
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01-01-2016 , 01:33 AM
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and I'm surprised he didn't log me out of bravo.
(yes, I checked immediately after he left the table.)

Years ago, when I used to work the brush stand, we had a player, "Russ", who was despised by all of the staff and the other players. If the dealer logged Russ out of Bravo, he'd catch on and go nuts. So we'd log him out from the brush stand and then manually log on some other random "Russ" in his place. (Bravo let's you do a name search). This was extra satisfying because the d - bag was convinced that he was getting his credit for being logged on and the entire staff was in on it.
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01-02-2016 , 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by bolt2112
Years ago, when I used to work the brush stand, we had a player, "Russ", who was despised by all of the staff and the other players. If the dealer logged Russ out of Bravo, he'd catch on and go nuts. So we'd log him out from the brush stand and then manually log on some other random "Russ" in his place. (Bravo let's you do a name search). This was extra satisfying because the d - bag was convinced that he was getting his credit for being logged on and the entire staff was in on it.
The management in that room was a bunch of childish pussies for not simply banning Russ instead of compromising its integrity.
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01-02-2016 , 08:19 AM
So I'm sure this has been asked multiple times but I can't read a 400 page thread. I've read a few pages and see a lot of talk about tipping in various situations, but what I'm wondering is how common are players who do not tip at all?

I haven't played much live, but may be moving to Vegas soon, and my general thought is that to maximize my chances of being a successful player I should never tip. Otherwise I'm harming my ROI and slowing the rate at which I can move up in stakes, right? But if it's the case that 90+% of players tip I don't think I'd want to be the despised player, so it seems relevant how common the practice is and how dealers respond.

I would think dealers would understand that just like them, grinders are working, and it makes no sense to voluntarily decrease one's wages. It's hard enough with the rake.

If I'm eventually really successful, to the point I'm making a comfortable income solely from poker, then I would consider tipping dealers, because it doesn't make much difference to me whether I'm making $60/hour or $50/hour, but there is a huge difference between $20/hour and $10/hour.
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01-02-2016 , 08:55 AM
If you're good enough, $1 for a decently sized pot will not affect you.

Then again the entire of this thread should be: Tip when and how much you want and the rest is mental masturbation
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