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08-01-2014 , 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by cwrector77
I've talked to some dealers who actually believe they should get a percentage of the pot, as if they were waiting tables.
Those dealers are dreaming and deserve nothing.

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Originally Posted by cwrector77
I've also heard dealers talk about how they "doubled a player up" or "busted them out".
The dealer isn't taking credit. He's just saying that while he was dealing Bob busted out or doubled up.
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08-01-2014 , 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by steamraise
Those dealers are dreaming and deserve nothing.


The dealer isn't taking credit. He's just saying that while he was dealing Bob busted out or doubled up.
No. They were actually taking credit for it, as if they have anything to do with the outcome of the hand. I used to deal and would hear remarks all of the time, such as "I doubled up player A and he only gave me a buck". Another time I was playing in a casino and the dealer was saying players should tip 10%. I was actually still a dealer at the time and I had to speak up and tell him that he's crazy if that's what he actually thinks.
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08-01-2014 , 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by cwrector77
No. They were actually taking credit for it, such as "I doubled up player A and he only gave me a buck".
"I was dealing and pushed a big pot to player A doubling him up."
That's what I mean when I say "I doubled up player A.".
I hope he's not complaining about the tip in front of customers.

"I busted cwrector77." Is not me taking the blame for you losing. It's short for,
"I was the dealer when cwrector77 busted out."

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Originally Posted by cwrector77
dealer was saying players should tip 10%.
Like I said, this guy is crazy and doesn't deserve a nickel.
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08-01-2014 , 08:30 PM
What's the consensus for tipping in tournaments? Let's say it's 10k guarantee $150 buyin, do you only tip if you get 1st place? *there's a $5 dealer fee included already in the buy in.
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08-01-2014 , 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Land O Lakes
If you've ever played live poker, then you know that even just tapping the check on the felt is a sign of thanks. It's the dealers that just pocket the money without saying a word (nor even looking in the direction of the player) and just deal the next hand like nothing happened is who we are discussing. If you don't view that as rude to your tippers, then you are pretty clueless about how the tipping industry works.
I've played more live poker than the vast majority of this site. If you were familiar with my posts here, you'd know I rarely if ever play online at all, so my experience has almost solely been live poker. You'd also know I was a part-time dealer years ago. But, you decided instead to incompetently make assertions based on the fact that you were angry at my post, none of which were even remotely close to being correct. Well done!
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08-01-2014 , 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Land O Lakes
Yes, tapping with visual acknowledgement, I should have said. I'm sure he tips black chips and doesn't care whether the dealer gives him a second thought or not. He's just not petty like that.
I don't tip black chips. I never brought up personal finances or tipping style. Nice strawman.

I rarely if ever pay much attention to whether the dealer acknowledges my toke. I guess I'm just not that nitty, what can I tell you? I'm sorry that you are to the point where you sit around worrying about it.
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08-01-2014 , 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by rakeme
What's the consensus for tipping in tournaments? Let's say it's 10k guarantee $150 buyin, do you only tip if you get 1st place? *there's a $5 dealer fee included already in the buy in.
Thread has unfortunately failed to reach a consensus on this. Answers here vary widely.
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08-01-2014 , 09:10 PM
I couldn't care less if a dealer says thank you. I want dealers who deal fast and control the games, not sloppy slow dealer who pay no attention to the game but think they deserve a good living by simply showing up.
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08-01-2014 , 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by 2OutsNoProb
Thread has unfortunately failed to reach a consensus on this. Answers here vary widely.
What's your personal view? I'm just trying to get a rough guideline because I have zero knowledge about tournament tipping etiquette and I'm playing in one tomorrow. Thanks.
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08-01-2014 , 09:33 PM
1) You have to cash first.
2) General consensus is when they take money out up front for the dealers, less tipping is expected
3) Tip on net, not gross. If you cash for $300, you only made $150
4) If they take out 4% of the prize pool (in your case, if the house vig is $25, then the $5 to the dealers is 4% of the remaining $125), many consider that they have already tipped 4%. So, if you cash $1500, you have already tipped $60.
5) If you feel like tipping more, go ahead. Your money.
6) Don't let the "reg" (who didn't cash) convince you that "X percent is normal". Same with the TD or the dealers. Your money.
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08-01-2014 , 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by 2OutsNoProb
I've played more live poker than the vast majority of this site. If you were familiar with my posts here, you'd know I rarely if ever play online at all, so my experience has almost solely been live poker. You'd also know I was a part-time dealer years ago. But, you decided instead to incompetently make assertions based on the fact that you were angry at my post, none of which were even remotely close to being correct. Well done!
Actually, I'm very aware of your posting history. I was not angry at your post. It's just that you always take anything anyone says about tipping to mean they are cheap or using an excuse to not tip.
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08-01-2014 , 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by 2OutsNoProb
I don't tip black chips. I never brought up personal finances or tipping style. Nice strawman.

I rarely if ever pay much attention to whether the dealer acknowledges my toke. I guess I'm just not that nitty, what can I tell you? I'm sorry that you are to the point where you sit around worrying about it.
I don't sit around worrying about it, Mr. Strawman. At the same time, I don't just give people money just because I won money. A ****ty dealer gets nothing from me; an exemplary dealer, who doesn't acknowledge my tip, will still likely get tipped (I don't know, because I've never ran into an exemplary dealer who didn't say thanks), but a mediocre dealer who can't acknowledge someone's gratuity (yes, it's gratuity) will not get anything.
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08-03-2014 , 03:28 AM
so how much $/hr do dealers make?
in Vegas, Borgota/Taj, Maryland Live?
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08-03-2014 , 01:34 PM
Prob 4-5 dollar range
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08-03-2014 , 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by a sleepy AA Suited
so how much $/hr do dealers make?
in Vegas, Borgota/Taj, Maryland Live?
er.. meant $/hr in tips for poker dealers
(now more awake)
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08-03-2014 , 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by AA Suited
er.. meant $/hr in tips for poker dealers
(now more awake)
"Hourly" isn't everything, if you are asking how much does Dan get tipped every hour he deals.

Alice deals at the Albatross Cardroom. She gets 5 shifts. Each shift, she averages 6 hours "in the box". The casino spreads more Limit than NL. She averages 30 hands/hr because the structure of the games and the speed of the players.

Zach deals at the Zebra Casino Resort. He gets 4 shifts. Due to overstaffing, he only averages 4.5 hours a shift "in the box". The casino spreads NL and PL exclusively. He averages 25 hands an hour.

Alice deals 900 hands a week
Zach deals 450 hands a week

If they are both tipped $1 a hand ...

"Stiffs" and "Georges" don't affect a dealer's weekly nearly as much as Management.

Even if you are just asking how much they are tipped per hour in the box, it varies.
How many hands are dealt? Limit games, regular players have more hands. NL , noobs, "Hollywood" Harry's, generate fewer hands.
New territory? Areas that have just been opened up to poker tend to have higher tip rates than older, established markets.
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08-03-2014 , 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by AA Suited
so how much $/hr do dealers make?
in Vegas, Borgota/Taj, Maryland Live?
Maryland Live:

$3.63

Most employees must be paid the Maryland State Minimum Wage Rate. Tipped Employees (earning more than*$30*per month in tips): must earn the State Minimum Wage Rate per hour. Employers must pay at least*$3.63*per hour.

Amusement and Recreational Establishments:*must pay employees at least 85% of the State Minimum Wage Rate or $7.25, whichever is higher.

http://www.dllr.state.md.us/labor/wa...ehrfacts.shtml
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08-04-2014 , 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by steamraise
"I was dealing and pushed a big pot to player A doubling him up."
That's what I mean when I say "I doubled up player A.".
I hope he's not complaining about the tip in front of customers.

"I busted cwrector77." Is not me taking the blame for you losing. It's short for,
"I was the dealer when cwrector77 busted out."


Like I said, this guy is crazy and doesn't deserve a nickel.
Well in all honesty the only thing the dealer is responsible is for delivering the cards and running the game. They never double anyone up or bust anyone out, so that is my point. I used to deal so I'm used to hearing what dealers have to say.
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08-05-2014 , 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by HappyHolidaysYall
note to dealers:

if you don't say thanks or acknowledge my tip the first two times i tip, it's my new police to stop tipping you on that day. maybe i'm fickle, but i like my existence to be acknowledged (just slightly) if i'm giving you money...unless you're so fast and good that i actually appreciate your skills and am tipping based on your skills and not the tradition of tipping.
You must be such a joy at the table, Mr. Pink.

received cards+rules followed+received pot=ship white

This formula could have saved you guys at least 300 pages of posting! No thanks necessary. Mods, move this to poker theory if deemed appropriate.
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08-11-2014 , 12:27 PM
After tipping regularly for 3 years of playing live poker, this year I'm on a big downswing so a month ago I decided to save some money by not tipping at all!

Surprising enough, so far I haven't noticed any negative reactions from dealers, nor from other players.
It's worth noting that most of them know me as a nice guy who is always polite and never angry or rude, so that probably helped.
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08-12-2014 , 12:41 AM
They noticed. Trust me.
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08-12-2014 , 12:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Svizac
After tipping regularly for 3 years of playing live poker, this year I'm on a big downswing so a month ago I decided to save some money by not tipping at all!

Surprising enough, so far I haven't noticed any negative reactions from dealers, nor from other players.
It's worth noting that most of them know me as a nice guy who is always polite and never angry or rude, so that probably helped.

Saved money by not tipping? Do you also stiff the waitress?? If things are that bad you could save a lot more by not playing at all...
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08-12-2014 , 01:01 AM
Seems excessively trollish (especially the estimation mark), but yeah, you'd have to be oblivious if you went from a reg tipper to reg stiffer and never noticed any negativity from anyone, lol.
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08-12-2014 , 07:50 AM
I tip $1 for any pot over $100. Rate my tipping on a scale of 1-10, 1 being cheapskate and 10 being a fair tipper. *I occasionally tip $2 on a huge all in pot ($400 pot or bigger).
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08-12-2014 , 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by rakeme
I tip $1 for any pot over $100. Rate my tipping on a scale of 1-10, 1 being cheapskate and 10 being a fair tipper. *I occasionally tip $2 on a huge all in pot ($400 pot or bigger).
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